The Frequency of Memory: Echoes From When Radio Was Alive

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Jim Conrad: Welcome to Conovision,
the spirit of storytelling.

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I am Jim Conrad, AKA Cono, and on this
episode, we are going to get deep into

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the broadcasting careers of two very good
friends, Terry DiMonte and Jake Edwards.

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That's coming up in just a bit, but right
now I think it's time for some Word Jazz.

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Have you ever heard word jazz?

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Invented by a voice actor from
Chicago, whose name is Ken Nordine.

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Burgundy.

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He started his broadcast career in
radio in Chicago and then gained quite

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a lot of fame for a series of albums he
recorded called Word Jazz and as well

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an album called Colors, which evolved
from a series of advertising spots for a

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paint company, all about various colors
that you could buy at the paint store.

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And the commercials became so
popular, they began getting requests

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for them at the radio station.

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So from the album Colors,
this is the story of beige.

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Impossible to understand beige
unless you stare at him hard.

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Stare him right in his wise.

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Unless you see beige in the serious
beige-ness of being its beige

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self, more than anything, beige
is careful, insanely so really.

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Almost as careful as that
shade of yellow that's afraid.

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But beige is much stealthier than yellow.

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Wants the entire everything
to be as safe as yesterday is

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now that right now is here.

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You know how flamboyant red can be?

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Wouldn't last a minute with
beige, probably wouldn't

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get past beige secretary.

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Maybe you've seen her?

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Miss Always Light Tan.

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Beige even thinks that orange is a
little too out there, the way it streaks,

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sunrise and set and just the mention
of green causes beige to see purple,

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which drives them into an absolute rage.

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But of course it's only a beige rage.

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Not much strength to it.

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To be honest, as lily white, the truth is
that beige is actually anti color unless

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the color is off white, you know, rhymes
with alt right, unless the color is beige.

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About as average as you can get
away with seeing is the gray way,

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beige likes to have things being.

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Welcome to the Conovision Podcast,
the spirit of storytelling,

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storytellers ,and stories.

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So first, a word about stories.

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A story doesn't breathe,
but it does have life.

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Stories are the vehicle that move
metaphor and image into experience,

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stories, communicate what is generally
ineffable and ultimately inexpressible.

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Jake Edwards: Are you high right now?

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Seriously?

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Jim Conrad: Throwing color into the
shadows, and ultimately of all the

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devices available to us, stories
are the surest way of touching the

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human spirit through the human voice.

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Jake Edwards: Where's
the bowl full of gummies?

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I mean, there must be some little
side things you're on here.

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What is going on here?

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Jim Conrad: Uh, the two human
voices I have with me today.

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Jake Edwards: Was that
a demo tape for you?

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Jim Conrad: That was a demo.

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That was just okay.

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Jake Edwards: Good.

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Well done.

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Jim Conrad: I have two legendary
broadcasters, brother Jake

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Edwards and Terry DiMonte.

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Now, uh, Terry and, uh,
Jake are good friends.

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They've known each
other for quite a while.

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Uh, Terry, give me a little thumbnail
sketch of, uh, where you were

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born and where you were raised.

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Terry DiMonte: I am, uh, Quebecer.

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I was, uh, born in Montreal.

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And, uh, raised in Montreal.

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And, uh, my first job in radio was
in Manitoba, not in Winnipeg where

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I met Jake, but in Churchill, uh, up
with the polar bears on Hudson's Bay.

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And I moved to Winnipeg in the summer
of 78 and met Jake shortly after that.

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Jim Conrad: And Jake?

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Born and raised in?

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Jake Edwards: Moncton to New Brunswick.

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Maritimer.

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Spent 17, 18 years there and then took
off to Boston and became a radio guy.

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That's what I did.

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Just studied radio and
trucked through the country.

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And then finally got to
Winnipeg and met Terry.

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And uh, Terry was telling me
his last gig was in Churchill.

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I couldn't believe it.

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Like, are you kidding?

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Like where the polar bears are?

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He went, yes.

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And he talks about Montreal.

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It's really funny because when we were at
CITI-FM, we were just starting to ramp up.

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I mean 360,000 watts
of pure rock and power.

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Everything was going great.

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And Terry said, well, you know,
we been on here for a few months.

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I'm gonna take a little trip home.

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Well, you're going home
going back to Montreal?

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Yep.

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Gonna go back to Montreal.

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Then I met him about 12 days
later, he looked like the mummy.

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Tell him what happened.

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Tell him this story.

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You want to get a story?

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This story right here.

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Jim Conrad: Okay.

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Here's our first story.

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Jake Edwards: Well, he's
wrapped up like a mummy.

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There isn't any flesh left on him.

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Just a two eyes sticking out.

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What happened?

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Terry DiMonte: When, when I
moved to Winnipeg it was really

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my first time away from home.

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And when I was hired at CITI-FM in
Winnipeg in the summer of 78, it was

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literally just getting off the ground.

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They didn't have an all night person.

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I was, I was terrified.

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My start was at the CBC.

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And, you know, they were gonna
turn me loose into this studio,

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uh, to do the all night show.

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And I was, you know, terrified
of how I was gonna handle

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it and how it was gonna go.

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And every minute I thought
I was gonna get fired.

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And I remember Steve Young, uh, drawing
a circle on a piece of paper, and he

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drew a line at 12 and 6 and 9 and 3.

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And he took the pencil and he
said, stop here and stop here.

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Do the weather here.

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Don't forget to say 92 CITI-FM
and do whatever the hell you want.

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I felt so much pressure.

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And then they, they said to me,
you gotta go away on a holiday.

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So I wanted to go back to Montreal
because I miss my friends and family.

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I was still only 19.

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I went back to Montreal and went out
with friends and, um, we began drinking.

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Which is quite a surprise at that age.

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And I, I was, uh,

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Jim Conrad: Invincible.

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Terry DiMonte: Oh yeah.

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Bulletproof.

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In the backseat of a car,
uh, driving up a boulevard.

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And, uh, there was a car full of girls
that pulled up beside us at a red light.

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And I thought the perfect way to
impress them will be to put my

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body out the window, sit on the
door sill and wave across the

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roof at the car next to us, right?

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So I'm sitting on the door sill
holding the roof with my hands, and

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as the car began to move, I thought,
I've seen Burt Reynolds do it.

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And I reached across, I pushed off
the backseat and reached across the

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roof to try and strap myself across
the roof while the car was driving.

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Because I thought that
would be impressive.

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Jim Conrad: Very cool.

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Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

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Uh, my hands of course didn't reach.

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And I grabbed and pushed, and as I
pushed, I rolled off the back windshield,

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bounced off the trunk, bounced off the
boulevard, and rolled into a ditch.

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And, um, as the doctor was,

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Jim Conrad: That's not
funny, but that's funny.

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Terry DiMonte: It's, but it is.

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It's, it's so incredibly
stupid it's funny.

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And when the, when the, uh, guys backed up
the car to pick me up, I was, of course, I

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don't know, and whatever the, you know, I
don't know if I was concussed or whatever,

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but I was trying to mop up the blood
with crumpled up newspaper in the ditch.

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And they took me right to the hospital.

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And as the doctor was sewing my head
up, I still have the gash in my head.

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The, the doctor was sewing me up, he
said, you're lucky you were drunk.

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And I thought to myself, I remember
thinking to myself, well, if I wasn't

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drunk, I wouldn't have been doing that.

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Jim Conrad: This wouldn't have
happened in the first place.

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Terry DiMonte: But, but he, he did
say to me because I was drunk when

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I hit the road, I was loose because
he said, otherwise you'd be dead.

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Jake Edwards: You know,
there's an intellectual

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property if you think about it.

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Because he created the first Jackass.

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Right.

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If, you know, if you would've had
another bunch of buddies going on board.

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I mean it's not,

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Jim Conrad: If you had video rolling
of that it would be priceless.

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Terry DiMonte: It's not a great radio
story, but I, I, I, I was so, you know,

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I was so excited to have a gig and I
was so afraid to miss the gig that they

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bandaged me up pretty, you know, I had a,
a bandage wrapped around my head and my

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arm was all bandaged up and in a sling,
and my face was all puffy and swollen

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and I thought, I have to go to work.

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I gotta go to work.

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Jim Conrad: Yeah.

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Can't missed a gig.

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Terry DiMonte: Jake saw me and he was,

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Jake Edwards: I lost it.

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Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

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He's like, what the fuck?

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Jake Edwards: This is the new
guy going to afternoon soon.

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I'm the morning guy.

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Yeah.

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So this radio station is going to be,

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Terry DiMonte: Yeah, we're in trouble.

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Jake Edwards: Unbelievable.

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92 CITI-FM.

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360,000 watts of power.

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Alright, let's come in for the photos.

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Here's the head shots.

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Look, it's John Merrick, the elephant

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man.

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Terry DiMonte: In terms, in terms of radio
stories though, Jim, it's a good, it's

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really a good, uh, place to start because
I think, and I'm gonna sound like a douche

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bag because I worked there, but I think
it was a real unique moment in, in radio.

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I know the guys at CFox and Q107 and
CHOM all have their own stories, but

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CITI-FM changed formats without asking.

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Which was a big deal back in those days.

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They went from classical to rock, began
hiring these people and the people

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that ended up working in that place
turned out to be, you know, again,

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I'm gonna sound like an arsehole,
but you know, giants of the business.

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Gary Aube.

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Magic Christian was his nickname.

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Uh, Steve Young.

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Steve Warden, Jake Edwards.

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Snapper Bob.

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Elton John: Randy.

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Randy.

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Terry DiMonte: Randy.

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Yeah.

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Randy Renauld, uh, Doc Steen worked
there, which legendary broadcaster.

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And there was this, you know, this
happenstance of all of these young,

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wild people that came together.

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Jim Conrad: Alchemy.

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Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

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Uh, that's the perfect word for it.

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And I remember we were stuck in the
basement, uh, because the company at

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the time that owned the radio station,
Moffat, they thought, well, they

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wanna turn it into a rock station.

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So go, you guys go ahead
and play in the basement.

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We'll see what happens.

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I don't think they expected
it to be successful, Jake.

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I really don't.

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Jake Edwards: No.

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And and none of them came down to
check out what was going on down there.

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Terry DiMonte: No, they didn't.

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Jake Edwards: They, they were
afraid to come down to the basement.

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'Cause there was a lot of
crap going on down there.

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Jim Conrad: Okay.

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What kind of crap as well.

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Jake Edwards: Well, I
mean, pick your poison.

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I mean, seriously, there's
an ashtray full of joints.

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Terry DiMonte: I, I'll tell you, I'm
sure Steve isn't with us anymore.

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God rest his soul.

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But I'm sure you won't mind.

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Jim Conrad: Steve Young.

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Terry DiMonte: Steve Young.

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Yeah.

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Uh, Steve was legendary radio
mind, legendary music director.

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And I, I had been working the all night
show, and I, again, remember, I've only

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been in radio for maybe eight months,
and he, I would get off the air at 6.

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I'd go across the street from Polo Park to
McDonald's, have coffee, wait for him to

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come in, and at 8 o'clock I would go in.

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He was a music director, and I would
go into his office and, you know, I'd

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wanna learn, I wanted to know about
music systems and how it worked and

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what I could do and how could I help.

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And, you know, at 11 or 12 o'clock
he'd say, you gotta go home.

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You gotta work tonight.

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And he, he got comfortable with me.

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And after about a couple of weeks,
he came in and he put his coat on the

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hook in his office, and he sat behind
his desk and he opened the desk drawer

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and he put a blowtorch on the desk.

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Now remember, I've never, like I was,
I was a real goody two shoes kid.

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I never, I'd never taken
a puff of anything.

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I'd never seen anything.

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And I thought, I'm just
gonna keep my mouth shut.

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Yeah.

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I'm not sure if he's, you know,
maybe he is gonna weld the desk.

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I'm not sure what he is up to.

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And then he pulled out a couple of
knives and they clanked on the desk and

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I thought, what the fuck is he doing?

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And he looked at me and he
said, I haven't had my morning

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coffee, so would you like a hit?

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And I still didn't know what he meant.

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And he put a chunk of hash in
between the two knives and he fired

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up the blow torch and did the big,

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Jim Conrad: Yep.

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Terry DiMonte: And then we started to do
music and I, and I thought to myself, what

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kind of fucking business have I landed in?

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But that's, that's the kind of, I tell
that story and, and not to tell tales

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at a school, but it gives you an idea.

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It was Jake, I think
you'd agree with this.

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It was as close to WKRP as

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Jake Edwards: Totally, totally, yeah.

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We did, we did quite a few stupid promos
like the Helium 500, remember that one?

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Where we got the helium tanks in.

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I came up with this idea and I
thought, let's get these helium tanks

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in, and every time we go on the air,
we'd have to take a big gulp of air.

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And talk about 360,000
watts of pure radial power.

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Here's Rush.

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And we just kill ourselves laughing,
not thinking that ingesting and

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inhaling this helium the whole day.

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Everybody went around.

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So anytime your voice broke back
to normal, you could phone in

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and they would win something.

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So our thing is we wanted to try to go
500, whatever that was, uh, for a whole

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day to see without, without breaking.

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But, uh, that was hilarious.

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And then when they started rolling
the tanks in and then it became real

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and we were on the air doing that.

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Terry DiMonte: But it was, it
was the kind of environment

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where nothing was off the table.

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You know, I listened to radio today and
I kind of roll my eyes because back,

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back then, everybody's ideas were cool.

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There were no bad ideas.

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And the crazier the idea, the better.

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And Jake and Magic, the program
director, and Steve, I think were,

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were forever cooking up ways to make
the place interesting and fascinating.

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'Cause we, we were trying to get
noticed, we were like an, an upstart

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station that nobody listened to.

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And slowly we began to build this
audience and it, it turned into,

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well it's still there today.

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Jake Edwards: Well, and I gotta, you
know, back in the day when I flew up to

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look at this radio station, Gary Aube, I
was on the air in Moncton and Gary Aube

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just happened to be driving through New
Brunswick looking for talent on the air.

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So I happened to be on in the evening
and he called up, he said, man, man.

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It's Magic Christian.

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He said, how are you doing?

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I said, really great.

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Who, who are you?

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He said, I'm just coming from Winnipeg.

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We're looking for talent down here.

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He said, either you're a fucked up jock
from Chicago, or you don't know how

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really how good you could be on FM. And
I went, well, I've never been to Chicago.

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So anyway, I get on a
plane, I get on this.

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Jim Conrad: He flies you to Winnipeg?

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Jake Edwards: Fly to Winnipeg.

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And I remember it was my first
time in an aircraft ever.

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A plane.

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27 years old however, I was.

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So I'm on the plane and I'm
sitting next to Chief Two Rivers.

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The guy was, uh, it was like
this famous chief from Winnipeg.

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And, uh, a Native guy, Indigenous man.

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And he said, where you going?

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I said, I'm gonna be a I, I'm
gonna look at a job in Winnipeg.

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And he said, well, he said,
uh, things are looking good.

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I feel it.

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And I went, oh, okay.

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Really cool.

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So I went, he said, uh,
you're going to be good.

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I have this feeling that
you're gonna be good.

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So then he goes to the back of
the plane to smoke, whatever.

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And I never saw him again.

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Who thought?

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Jim Conrad: So he was high.

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Jake Edwards: He he was high.

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Are you high right now?

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So, you know, I get out of the,
you know, never been to Winnipeg

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coming from New Brunswick, which the
weather is, you know, it's, it can

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be kind of balmy and kind of nice.

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And it was the coldest
winter on record, 79.

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It was so fricking cold.

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And then back then you actually
walked onto the tarmac.

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Jim Conrad: Right.

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You got off the plane.

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Jake Edwards: And I had a
bit of a, a cold going on.

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And I remember hitting the minus 42
degrees, uh, that was, it was minus 42.

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And as I'm walking down,
both nostrils slammed shut.

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It was frozen.

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I went, where in the fuck am I?

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And Magic was out in the, he
had the 92 CITI-FM trick truck.

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It was running.

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And he had these huge sentry speakers
in the back with Jimi Hendrix.

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He had all this tape stuff going on.

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'Cause he's that kind of guy.

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He wants to impress you that
you're walking into something

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you're really gonna love.

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But I just kept saying, I said, I

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Jim Conrad: You just wanted to get out of
the cold into the warm cab of the truck.

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Jake Edwards: He had everything planned.

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I just went, there's
no way I can work here.

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This is ridiculous.

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So got in the truck, we drove down
into the station and they called

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the bottom basement Bonzolia.

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Remember that, Bonzolia?

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Terry DiMonte: That, that was
Steve's Steve's nickname for it.

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Jake Edwards: Yeah.

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So that means that, you know,
nobody comes through these doors.

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And if you are knighted to come in and be
part of the round table, it would be cool.

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So once you got down there, I remember
Chris McGregor was the midday guy.

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Jim Conrad: Yeah.

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So it was kinda like a club.

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Jake Edwards: It was a club.

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Jim Conrad: Club or, or a frat host.

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Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

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And the guys, the guys, Steve and
Magic that ran it, infused it with

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this kind of other worldly insanity.

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Like I I, when I came from my interview
from Churchill, I was working at the CBC.

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So when I went for my interview
and I look back on it now and

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I think, what was I thinking?

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I wore a tie.

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And I sat in a chair at the desk
and I, you know, was answering

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these questions and, you know, your
experience and blah, blah, blah.

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And they said to me, you know, we
listened to your tape and we never

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heard a guy who couldn't shut up like
that, who could talk for hours, and

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we think you're talented and, but you
need some work and blah, blah, blah.

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And um, when he said, you know, it doesn't
pay a lot, but, uh, when can you start?

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And I was enthralled.

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And as I was saying, well, I
think, uh, Steve reached into the

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drawer and opened the desk drawer.

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And I didn't, I didn't move fast enough.

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I didn't know what he was doing, but he
leaned over the desk and he grabbed my tie

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and he took scissors and he cut it off.

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Jim Conrad: A tie cutter.

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Ah.

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Terry DiMonte: And he said, you won't
be needing that fucking thing here.

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Said, this is another world.

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This ain't the CBC.

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So they, they, they infused that
place, you know, with the nicknames

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and the craziness, and, and they wanted
you to buy into the, the fact that,

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I remember Gary used to say, Magic
used to say, if it's in the hallway.

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It's coming outta the speakers.

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So we want, you know,
we want this madness.

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Jim Conrad: So he was
encouraging personality radio.

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Terry DiMonte: Yes.

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Yeah.

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Jim Conrad: And he, he was saying, who you
are is what I want to hear on the radio.

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Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

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And a, he wanted a sense of fun and,
you know, we were young and we were

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partying and it was rock and roll.

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And he wanted all of that in the hallway,
in the studio, in the outer offices.

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And I think you would agree with this
because it was such a little shit

00:19:36.885 --> 00:19:41.804
hole, you know, that that studio was
tiny and kind of grungy and dirty.

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And the office was very small.

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Like it was, um, it, it was
like a two bedroom apartment.

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And it contained the music office, the
jock lounge, the studio, and the, the,

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the commercial studio we're all in this
little tiny space and inside that tiny

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space you had to buy into Bonzolia.

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Which sounds crazy.

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Jake Edwards: Bonzolia to me, I had no
idea what the hell it was, but getting

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back to Chris McGregor when I walked in
there and he goes, he has a joint, he

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goes, by the way, you don't come into
Bonzolia unless you smoke this joint.

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I'm like, well, I just
got off a fucking plane.

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I'm freezing, I'm frozen.

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I'm not feeling well.

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So anyway, I'm high as shit.

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Then it's upstairs to upper management.

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I'm the same, I'm the same, i've
got the three piece suit on.

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I walk in and, and they just looked at me.

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Where the hell do you think you're going?

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I don't know.

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I'm high right now.

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Terry DiMonte: Did you,
did you wear a suit?

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Jake Edwards: I had a suit.

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Terry DiMonte: You had a suit on too.

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I didn't know that.

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Jake Edwards: Yeah, I had a full
suit on and I thought, you know,

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you're there, you're dressed
to impress trying to make it.

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Terry DiMonte: Of course, yeah.

00:20:47.180 --> 00:20:49.640
Jake Edwards: You know, not,
I'd already decided, in my

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mind, I was not gonna work here.

00:20:51.445 --> 00:20:52.380
Terry DiMonte: Oh, oh, you had, eh?

00:20:52.620 --> 00:20:55.320
Jake Edwards: But when, as soon as I saw
the weather, I said, this is ridiculous.

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Jim Conrad: I can't, I
cannot work in Winnipeg.

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Jake Edwards: No.

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And then, you know, you get into cars
if anybody who's ever went lived in

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Winnipeg, and the first thing you notice
in the, in the shopping mall, there's

00:21:04.950 --> 00:21:07.290
plugs going into cars off the front.

00:21:07.530 --> 00:21:09.360
What, what are people plugging cars?

00:21:09.390 --> 00:21:10.500
What, what is that all about?

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Jim Conrad: Block heaters.

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Jake Edwards: Block heaters.

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Never saw a block heater
in my fricking life.

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Jim Conrad: No, no.

00:21:14.460 --> 00:21:17.110
Jake Edwards: And uh, and then you
get up and drive on square tires,

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and then the tires start to warm up.

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Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

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And if you had a, I had a Volkswagen.

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If you had a 4, you know, if you had a
stick, you know, it was like, like, you

00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:36.170
know, like you had to really push it,
but I, I think you would agree with me.

00:21:36.530 --> 00:21:37.970
I fell in love with that town.

00:21:37.970 --> 00:21:38.600
I still love that.

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Jake Edwards: Oh, I, I did too.

00:21:39.575 --> 00:21:40.250
Terry DiMonte: I still love that town.

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Jake Edwards: Anybody that ever shit
talks Winnipeg, I just go, this is

00:21:43.879 --> 00:21:47.030
where I cut my creative funny bone.

00:21:47.030 --> 00:21:51.410
Jim Conrad: So earlier we were talking
about, uh, content and, uh, performance

00:21:51.410 --> 00:21:57.950
and audience and having the audience be
as an important component as the content.

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Would you say that the community of
Winnipeg or the, or any community

00:22:02.690 --> 00:22:08.330
that you were a broadcaster in,
Montreal, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Calgary,

00:22:08.820 --> 00:22:14.190
that community also informs your
content and, and makes it better?

00:22:14.250 --> 00:22:14.790
Jake Edwards: Well, sure.

00:22:14.790 --> 00:22:16.680
I mean, you come up with creative ideas.

00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:20.520
Like we had a thing called the beater
contest, the Winnipeg Beater contest.

00:22:20.520 --> 00:22:23.350
'Cause if you're in Winnipeg, you
didn't drive your regular car?

00:22:23.770 --> 00:22:26.669
You had to go out and buy
a shit box to drive around.

00:22:26.669 --> 00:22:29.399
So we had this Winnipeg beater contest.

00:22:29.399 --> 00:22:33.600
They would bring in the best
beaters and we would drive by new

00:22:33.659 --> 00:22:35.760
parking lots with these old beaters.

00:22:35.760 --> 00:22:38.754
It was, and at the end, we
gave away the ultimate beater.

00:22:38.814 --> 00:22:43.495
So the guy that won it, he had a
bed, a, a steel bed on the top, as

00:22:43.495 --> 00:22:45.385
they called it, the luggage rack.

00:22:47.129 --> 00:22:52.014
And, and on the front he had a
goose's neck that was from a real

00:22:52.014 --> 00:22:54.355
goose that he popped riveted on.

00:22:54.355 --> 00:22:57.925
And the things flapping all around as
we're driving down the road and on the

00:22:57.925 --> 00:23:02.605
back there's a real cow's tail that was
severed somehow into the trunk thing.

00:23:02.845 --> 00:23:03.625
And I just went,

00:23:03.625 --> 00:23:05.125
Jim Conrad: One of the
very first hybrid vehicle.

00:23:05.215 --> 00:23:05.544
Jake Edwards: Yes.

00:23:05.544 --> 00:23:10.284
So I thought, you know, we can't let this
guy lose 'cause I think he will kill us.

00:23:10.945 --> 00:23:14.875
Terry DiMonte: But you know, to your
point, Jim, I, I think one of the things,

00:23:14.875 --> 00:23:18.294
Jim Conrad: You're a better broadcaster
because most of your broadcasting was

00:23:18.385 --> 00:23:21.054
done in Montreal and you're a Montrealer.

00:23:21.245 --> 00:23:25.375
And so because of that fact, the
community, you knew the community.

00:23:25.670 --> 00:23:26.980
The community knew you.

00:23:27.320 --> 00:23:28.560
And it made you a better broadcaster.

00:23:28.580 --> 00:23:29.360
Terry DiMonte: But you know what, yeah.

00:23:29.435 --> 00:23:32.170
I, I, I don't disagree with that,
but I learned that in Winnipeg.

00:23:32.740 --> 00:23:39.020
Because I remember, again, it was Magic
who said to me one day, he said, um,

00:23:39.050 --> 00:23:43.910
probably a week after I got there, I
was outside the office or outside his

00:23:43.910 --> 00:23:47.570
office, and we were talking about, I was
telling stories about Montreal, and he

00:23:47.570 --> 00:23:49.280
said, Hey, TD, can I tell you something?

00:23:49.280 --> 00:23:49.940
And I said, what?

00:23:49.970 --> 00:23:53.030
He said, you're, you're
not a Montrealer anymore.

00:23:53.180 --> 00:23:54.260
He said, you're a Manitoban.

00:23:54.620 --> 00:23:59.420
He said, you now live in Winnipeg
and your job is to reflect

00:23:59.420 --> 00:24:00.860
the city back to the city.

00:24:01.250 --> 00:24:03.830
So he said, I want you to
go out and get involved.

00:24:03.830 --> 00:24:05.420
And I said, do doing what?

00:24:05.810 --> 00:24:06.555
He said, do anything.

00:24:07.379 --> 00:24:11.939
He said rake lawns, uh, get
involved in minor sports, do

00:24:11.939 --> 00:24:14.489
something, but learn the city.

00:24:14.790 --> 00:24:18.590
When somebody says to you, the St. James
Arena, you gotta know where that is.

00:24:18.889 --> 00:24:23.319
When somebody says to you, the corner
of dada and dada in West Kildonan,

00:24:23.520 --> 00:24:24.750
you gotta know where that is.

00:24:24.750 --> 00:24:26.340
Jake Edwards: You have to, you
gotta know the right names too.

00:24:26.370 --> 00:24:26.540
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

00:24:26.540 --> 00:24:31.620
You have to think like a Winnipeger
and you, you're now a Manitoban and I

00:24:31.620 --> 00:24:34.020
bought into that hook, line and sinker.

00:24:34.020 --> 00:24:37.500
I ended up coaching minor
hockey and I ended up, I ended

00:24:37.500 --> 00:24:39.580
up really embracing the city.

00:24:39.820 --> 00:24:44.040
And when I moved to Calgary, after
being in, in, uh, Montreal for years

00:24:44.040 --> 00:24:49.889
and years and years, I was out and about
and I would drive to neighborhoods.

00:24:50.500 --> 00:24:54.700
I would take pictures of schools and
write their names down and then go

00:24:54.700 --> 00:24:57.910
home and make notes about where those
schools were, what communities they were.

00:24:57.910 --> 00:25:01.510
So when somebody said to me, you
know, Sir Winston Churchill School, I

00:25:01.510 --> 00:25:03.510
knew that that was in that community.

00:25:03.890 --> 00:25:05.860
You know, like I was trying
to become a Calgarian.

00:25:05.860 --> 00:25:10.400
I never really had time to become
a Calgarian, but that's, I learned

00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:14.200
that in Winnipeg, it was much easier
in Montreal 'cause I was from there.

00:25:14.320 --> 00:25:17.710
You know, I could, I, and I always
believed that you, you know,

00:25:17.710 --> 00:25:19.600
you paint pictures with words.

00:25:19.600 --> 00:25:21.130
That's the way radio works.

00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:25.900
So when you talk about, you know,
when I say to Jake, Ray and Jerry's,

00:25:25.930 --> 00:25:27.910
he knows exactly where that is.

00:25:27.970 --> 00:25:31.285
And I know you can see the sign in
the red booths in your head that's,

00:25:31.405 --> 00:25:32.645
Jake Edwards: I can
taste the steak sandwich.

00:25:32.645 --> 00:25:33.524
Terry DiMonte: That's the way radio works.

00:25:33.795 --> 00:25:35.770
So you have to become
part of the community.

00:25:35.770 --> 00:25:38.610
And I learned that in Winnipeg at CITI-FM.

00:25:38.770 --> 00:25:41.830
Jake Edwards: Well, you know, him
giving you that lesson didn't go

00:25:41.830 --> 00:25:43.570
as well as the lesson he gave me.

00:25:44.115 --> 00:25:47.025
I walked in, I was full of
piss and vinegar thinking.

00:25:47.025 --> 00:25:48.205
Jim Conrad: So this is Gary, Gary Aube.

00:25:48.855 --> 00:25:48.875
Jake Edwards: Gary Aube.

00:25:48.875 --> 00:25:50.080
Jim Conrad: And he's just tired you from.

00:25:50.300 --> 00:25:52.995
Jake Edwards: Yeah, well, I, I've
been on the air for about a year.

00:25:53.205 --> 00:25:53.655
Jim Conrad: Oh, okay.

00:25:53.655 --> 00:25:56.055
Jake Edwards: And I'm sitting
there and I'm pretty, feeling

00:25:56.055 --> 00:25:57.165
pretty good about myself.

00:25:57.165 --> 00:26:00.795
You know, I'm doing commercials, I'm
doing, you know, the pros and stuff.

00:26:00.885 --> 00:26:02.355
He's feeling really good about myself.

00:26:02.355 --> 00:26:02.415
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

00:26:02.415 --> 00:26:04.485
He's, he's being modest,
which he often is not.

00:26:04.575 --> 00:26:04.725
Jake Edwards: No.

00:26:04.725 --> 00:26:06.735
Well, anyway, that's true.

00:26:07.215 --> 00:26:07.875
You know me.

00:26:08.245 --> 00:26:13.395
Terry DiMonte: And, and, but you set the
town on fire in, in like a month and,

00:26:13.395 --> 00:26:17.805
and people were begging you to do your
commercials for them and stuff, and you

00:26:17.805 --> 00:26:19.875
were a hit within a month or two, Jake.

00:26:19.905 --> 00:26:22.725
Jake Edwards: Well, I, you know, and I
kind of felt that that was happening.

00:26:22.725 --> 00:26:25.635
And then I walked in the office
and Gary said, have a seat.

00:26:25.995 --> 00:26:26.955
And I went, oh, great.

00:26:26.955 --> 00:26:27.795
Jim Conrad: Close the door behind you.

00:26:27.795 --> 00:26:28.695
Jake Edwards: Close the door behind me.

00:26:28.695 --> 00:26:28.840
Terry DiMonte: Getting a raise.

00:26:29.430 --> 00:26:30.945
Jake Edwards: Yeah, I'm
gonna get a raise right now.

00:26:31.725 --> 00:26:34.185
So he said, uh, so how you feeling?

00:26:34.185 --> 00:26:35.295
I said, I feel pretty good.

00:26:35.295 --> 00:26:36.345
I think I'm coming along.

00:26:36.645 --> 00:26:39.375
He said, what the fuck
is wrong with your voice?

00:26:39.815 --> 00:26:40.395
Jim Conrad: Oh, no.

00:26:40.395 --> 00:26:43.585
And I went, what?

00:26:43.585 --> 00:26:47.709
Because don't forget, I came back from
a, you know, shotgun kind of, you know,

00:26:47.819 --> 00:26:53.489
AM radio screaming like Wolfman Jack,
all those, uh, high octane screaming,

00:26:53.489 --> 00:26:55.590
hitting vocals on music and records.

00:26:55.590 --> 00:26:56.580
That was my deal.

00:26:56.610 --> 00:27:02.669
So when I came into FM, uh, I started
introing FM records, which was never done.

00:27:02.699 --> 00:27:04.020
It was never done.

00:27:04.199 --> 00:27:08.310
They treated FM like you, you
have this history about this

00:27:08.310 --> 00:27:09.899
rock piece before you play it.

00:27:10.229 --> 00:27:12.659
My idea of fun was basically,

00:27:12.689 --> 00:27:13.465
Terry DiMonte: Fuck that.

00:27:13.675 --> 00:27:14.314
Jim Conrad: Fuck that.

00:27:14.314 --> 00:27:14.584
Jake Edwards: Fuck that, yeah.

00:27:14.584 --> 00:27:19.350
How I felt about music and how, how,
the kind of energy I used to put into

00:27:19.350 --> 00:27:22.770
the song and the call letters and then
it fired up and it started to work.

00:27:22.800 --> 00:27:24.020
'Cause it'd never been heard before.

00:27:24.139 --> 00:27:25.139
Nobody's ever done it.

00:27:25.260 --> 00:27:28.770
And I got my training in Moncton
when I was put on the airways.

00:27:28.770 --> 00:27:30.330
I did an AM and FM show.

00:27:30.690 --> 00:27:34.440
And then on FM I'd be playing
ACDC and just ripping into these

00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:35.790
intros, which had never been done.

00:27:35.790 --> 00:27:38.340
So I was kind of ready, I had it in
my mind, this is what I want to do.

00:27:38.700 --> 00:27:41.880
So Gary says, what is, what
is, what is going on there?

00:27:42.210 --> 00:27:43.140
And I went, what?

00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:45.960
And I remember I was so shocked.

00:27:46.320 --> 00:27:51.510
And he brought me down to more of
a leveling of the voice and a, and

00:27:51.510 --> 00:27:56.730
a leveling of that shotgun kind
of, jock to bring it down and to

00:27:56.730 --> 00:27:58.350
tone the energy down a little bit.

00:27:58.350 --> 00:28:00.060
'Cause I never had to look for energy.

00:28:00.060 --> 00:28:00.900
It was always there.

00:28:01.260 --> 00:28:03.180
And I remember getting in
the car and driving home, and

00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:04.550
I actually started crying.

00:28:04.690 --> 00:28:06.510
I just went, how could he say that to me?

00:28:06.690 --> 00:28:06.960
You know?

00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:08.020
And I was just shocked.

00:28:08.020 --> 00:28:10.740
And then he called me
and said, are you okay?

00:28:10.740 --> 00:28:13.020
And I said, well, I,
I'm, I'm kind of hurt.

00:28:13.380 --> 00:28:14.280
I'm really kind of hurt.

00:28:14.280 --> 00:28:15.180
And then he said.

00:28:15.600 --> 00:28:17.430
Uh, well, how do you,
what, what do you think?

00:28:17.430 --> 00:28:18.060
What are you gonna do?

00:28:18.060 --> 00:28:19.590
And I said, well, I'm
gonna give this a shot.

00:28:19.620 --> 00:28:21.150
But he was absolutely right.

00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:22.440
Terry DiMonte: I forgot about this.

00:28:22.560 --> 00:28:29.550
You deserve credit for this because you
changed the way FM radio was presented.

00:28:29.610 --> 00:28:34.740
Because, um, if you know the song by Black
Sabbath called Neon Knights, Neon Knights

00:28:34.740 --> 00:28:37.640
has quite an, an, an impressive intro.

00:28:38.040 --> 00:28:39.850
And it's pretty frenetic.

00:28:40.590 --> 00:28:43.290
And, um, we, of course, Jake was hired.

00:28:43.290 --> 00:28:43.980
We didn't know him.

00:28:43.980 --> 00:28:47.310
We didn't know who he was, what he
did, where he came from, and it,

00:28:47.370 --> 00:28:48.540
it might've been your opening day.

00:28:49.455 --> 00:28:54.675
But anyway, I was up to hear Jake and
um, because I think I was still doing

00:28:54.675 --> 00:28:56.175
the only, or maybe I was doing drive.

00:28:56.205 --> 00:28:57.074
Anyway, it doesn't matter.

00:28:57.074 --> 00:29:02.534
At 6 AM Neon Knights came on and
away you went with the intro.

00:29:02.685 --> 00:29:06.975
Jake Edwards: This is Brother
Jake on 92 CITI-FM, the 360,000

00:29:06.975 --> 00:29:08.925
watt power drip star cruiser.

00:29:09.314 --> 00:29:11.084
Black Sabbath of Neon Knights.

00:29:11.175 --> 00:29:12.195
Come get some.

00:29:12.195 --> 00:29:13.820
Oh no.

00:29:16.514 --> 00:29:19.094
Terry DiMonte: Jake did an
intro over that, that really

00:29:19.094 --> 00:29:21.435
belonged on WABC in New York.

00:29:21.495 --> 00:29:21.885
Really.

00:29:21.930 --> 00:29:26.100
It was that kind of intro, but when
I look back on it, you actually

00:29:26.100 --> 00:29:31.560
changed the way FM radio was presented
because there was this whole, um, uh,

00:29:32.280 --> 00:29:33.750
I, what's the word I'm looking for?

00:29:33.750 --> 00:29:38.190
There was this reverence about
the intro to, you know, uh,

00:29:38.190 --> 00:29:39.360
Jim Conrad: You couldn't talk over that.

00:29:39.365 --> 00:29:39.630
Terry DiMonte: Yeah, yeah.

00:29:39.630 --> 00:29:42.660
You didn't talk over Roundabout
because you don't want to talk over

00:29:42.660 --> 00:29:46.230
the, you know, the beautiful guitar
that, uh, Steve Howe was playing

00:29:46.230 --> 00:29:47.410
or whoever, you know what I mean?

00:29:47.410 --> 00:29:50.070
It was you and, and Jake was like, no, no.

00:29:50.070 --> 00:29:51.240
That's all part of the energy.

00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.640
But you know what I think he
did when he did that to you?

00:29:53.970 --> 00:29:55.350
He made you a better storyteller.

00:29:55.950 --> 00:29:57.540
He made you a better communicator.

00:29:57.540 --> 00:29:57.655
Jake Edwards: Yeah, he did.

00:29:57.925 --> 00:29:58.815
Terry DiMonte: Right.

00:29:58.815 --> 00:30:00.795
You stopped, you, it, it was

00:30:01.035 --> 00:30:02.095
Jim Conrad: Stop talking at the audience.

00:30:02.095 --> 00:30:05.160
Terry DiMonte: Well, it, it's,
it became less about performative

00:30:05.340 --> 00:30:07.030
and more about communicative.

00:30:07.180 --> 00:30:07.760
I think.

00:30:08.110 --> 00:30:09.015
Or am I full of shit?

00:30:09.045 --> 00:30:10.395
Jake Edwards: No, you're not full of shit.

00:30:10.905 --> 00:30:11.835
You're not full of shit.

00:30:11.835 --> 00:30:13.005
You're one of my best friends.

00:30:13.005 --> 00:30:17.385
And what we did back there
during that whole thing, uh, when

00:30:17.385 --> 00:30:19.935
it started was so incredible.

00:30:19.935 --> 00:30:24.145
I remember I used to be the guy that would
go out and try to get us stuff, right?

00:30:24.145 --> 00:30:28.035
I always try to get us stuff and I said,
Terry, what about that old Volkswagen?

00:30:28.035 --> 00:30:31.845
What about, isn't it time that we go
get a couple of high performance cars?

00:30:31.875 --> 00:30:33.675
He went, ah, what, what
are you talking about?

00:30:33.675 --> 00:30:36.815
So anyway, I got a Corvette
and he got a Camaro.

00:30:36.815 --> 00:30:38.945
Terry DiMonte: Camaro Z/28.

00:30:38.945 --> 00:30:41.775
Jake Edwards: We, we're on these two
giant billboards and we're standing over

00:30:41.775 --> 00:30:45.485
the hoods of the car, that said, let us
drive you home or whatever the thing was.

00:30:45.485 --> 00:30:47.005
I'll never forget that that was.

00:30:47.195 --> 00:30:48.375
Terry DiMonte: And I, I'm 20.

00:30:48.805 --> 00:30:53.639
Or whatever I was, and I would
secretly, after my show, I would

00:30:53.639 --> 00:30:55.500
go drive to the billboard and park.

00:30:56.790 --> 00:31:01.889
I go, holy fuck, I'm on a billboard.

00:31:01.889 --> 00:31:04.169
Look at that.

00:31:05.219 --> 00:31:08.459
Jim Conrad: Uh, for both of you, when
you were growing up in Montreal, growing

00:31:08.459 --> 00:31:15.780
up in Moncton, what was the first spark
that flipped the switch in your brain

00:31:15.780 --> 00:31:20.879
that said, maybe, maybe I can do this,
maybe I could become a broadcaster.

00:31:20.910 --> 00:31:24.420
Jake Edwards: See, I, you know, when my
dad bought me that little 6 transistor,

00:31:24.420 --> 00:31:25.710
remember the little leather case?

00:31:25.710 --> 00:31:27.939
It was a, had a red top
with some gold through it?

00:31:27.939 --> 00:31:31.889
It was a 6 transistor, RCA, so
my sister and I both got one.

00:31:31.889 --> 00:31:34.290
She was 11 and I was 12.

00:31:34.470 --> 00:31:38.100
And I remember going to bed at
night putting the earphone in

00:31:38.490 --> 00:31:40.740
and you know, there's no video
games, there's no internet.

00:31:40.770 --> 00:31:44.440
That right there with the skip
that came across in the evening.

00:31:44.690 --> 00:31:47.460
You could pick up stations all
the way down the eastern seaboard.

00:31:47.730 --> 00:31:52.110
Uh, it, it was amazing the coverage
you used to get and immediately when

00:31:52.110 --> 00:31:54.659
I heard it I said, I can do this.

00:31:54.659 --> 00:31:55.740
I want to do this.

00:31:55.740 --> 00:31:57.990
I absolutely want to do this.

00:31:57.990 --> 00:32:00.510
And I drove everybody insane.

00:32:00.840 --> 00:32:04.670
So I got my father to go out and we got
a reel to reel with the microphones.

00:32:04.670 --> 00:32:09.940
And I started just going and interviewing
and doing crazy voices and recording and

00:32:09.940 --> 00:32:14.790
singing, playing radio, and gritting the
guitar, uh, and strumming it along and

00:32:14.790 --> 00:32:17.940
getting, you know, anybody that came into
the room, I would try to interview them.

00:32:18.270 --> 00:32:23.460
And then as I got closer and closer,
you know, 15, 16, my dad takes me

00:32:23.580 --> 00:32:25.830
to the CNR and he said, no, boy.

00:32:25.919 --> 00:32:27.490
And he had a Maritime accent, you know?

00:32:27.810 --> 00:32:28.230
Hey, bye.

00:32:28.230 --> 00:32:31.139
You know, geez, uh, you're
gonna be driving an overhead

00:32:31.139 --> 00:32:32.310
crane just like your father.

00:32:32.370 --> 00:32:33.480
I said, an overhead crane.

00:32:33.810 --> 00:32:36.930
I said, there's no way I can pass
the eye test because I'm actually

00:32:37.169 --> 00:32:38.840
clinically blind in my left eye.

00:32:39.210 --> 00:32:41.280
He said, you'll learn
the goddamn eye chart.

00:32:41.280 --> 00:32:42.690
I know the eye doctor in there.

00:32:42.690 --> 00:32:43.350
We're gonna get you in.

00:32:44.190 --> 00:32:47.190
I said, there's no fricking way
I'm, I don't want to do this, dad.

00:32:47.520 --> 00:32:51.480
So he went in and I'm doing the eye
chart and the minute and the minute,

00:32:51.855 --> 00:32:55.305
I, I thought, I could have pulled
this off because I, all I had to do

00:32:55.305 --> 00:32:58.965
was memorize the, you know, you'd
have enough vision to actually go in

00:32:58.965 --> 00:33:02.735
there and I purposely flunked that
'cause I didn't want to go in, and

00:33:02.825 --> 00:33:05.235
then he was so disappointed for years.

00:33:05.265 --> 00:33:09.270
He, and then when I got into radio,
he said, this is, what are you doing?

00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:10.950
Why are you doing this?

00:33:11.190 --> 00:33:13.860
And then, you know, it just kind
of, it just kind of rose up.

00:33:14.100 --> 00:33:18.510
And I was ready to hit the
airwaves and I just, I'm sounding

00:33:18.510 --> 00:33:19.950
like a fricking narcissist now.

00:33:19.950 --> 00:33:21.840
Which, you know, part narcissist.

00:33:22.170 --> 00:33:23.100
I'm part narcissist.

00:33:23.100 --> 00:33:23.910
Terry DiMonte: No, Jake.

00:33:23.970 --> 00:33:24.240
Jake Edwards: Yeah, yeah.

00:33:24.270 --> 00:33:25.860
Terry DiMonte: No, no, no, no, no.

00:33:25.860 --> 00:33:26.010
Come on.

00:33:26.010 --> 00:33:26.430
Jake Edwards: Are you sure?

00:33:26.490 --> 00:33:26.730
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

00:33:26.790 --> 00:33:26.910
No,

00:33:26.910 --> 00:33:27.270
Jake Edwards: Look at me.

00:33:27.270 --> 00:33:27.810
I look like one.

00:33:27.810 --> 00:33:28.950
Terry DiMonte: You're,
you're a confident man.

00:33:30.540 --> 00:33:32.520
Jake Edwards: But I, you know,
I kind of, this is what I wanted

00:33:32.520 --> 00:33:34.260
to do and I never looked back.

00:33:34.260 --> 00:33:38.190
There was never anything, I played a
lot of sports at that point until I got

00:33:38.190 --> 00:33:40.470
into radio and then everything stopped.

00:33:40.470 --> 00:33:41.880
There was no more sports.

00:33:42.060 --> 00:33:47.180
It was all about being on the radio, in
the car with my friends, music coming on.

00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:48.960
And all I did was intros in the car.

00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:50.280
They, I drove them insane.

00:33:50.430 --> 00:33:53.190
Jim Conrad: So you played radio
until you finally got a gig in radio?

00:33:53.290 --> 00:33:54.110
Jake Edwards: Pretty much.

00:33:54.460 --> 00:33:55.000
Pretty much.

00:33:55.050 --> 00:33:55.890
Jim Conrad: Now, Terry, how about you?

00:33:56.430 --> 00:33:59.850
Terry DiMonte: Um, it, my,
there's a couple of things.

00:33:59.850 --> 00:34:05.070
I, I, when I was 5 or 6, my, my parents
bought me a, um, you know, one of those

00:34:05.070 --> 00:34:08.190
little plastic tonearm record players.

00:34:08.860 --> 00:34:12.780
And they grabbed just, they
grabbed a 45 out of the Woolworths

00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.710
counter, and it happened to be
She loves You by the Beatles.

00:34:18.350 --> 00:34:19.929
I, I played that record.

00:34:19.980 --> 00:34:23.490
My mom said, I played that
record 77,000 times a day.

00:34:23.790 --> 00:34:29.699
And I remember being a kid, uh, there
was a, a girl that lived next door and,

00:34:29.699 --> 00:34:31.350
uh, I played with her little brother.

00:34:31.350 --> 00:34:34.830
And I remember when the Beatles came
on, she would, come on the radio

00:34:34.980 --> 00:34:37.560
and she would scream and run into
the kitchen and turn up the radio.

00:34:37.560 --> 00:34:40.380
And I remember being a kid
thinking, that's interesting.

00:34:40.590 --> 00:34:44.699
She's, the music coming outta
that little box on the counter.

00:34:45.179 --> 00:34:48.150
And, and then my grandfather
had bought a reel to reel and

00:34:48.150 --> 00:34:49.469
I started to play with that.

00:34:50.040 --> 00:34:54.150
And I think it's, the way
Jake describes the, it's, it's

00:34:54.150 --> 00:34:55.710
kind of like you get a bug.

00:34:56.475 --> 00:34:59.355
You know, like, it, it
just, I was the same way.

00:34:59.355 --> 00:35:01.245
It's all I thought
about when I was 11, 12.

00:35:01.245 --> 00:35:01.895
Jim Conrad: You become obsessed.

00:35:01.955 --> 00:35:03.194
Terry DiMonte: I just became obsessed.

00:35:03.194 --> 00:35:05.374
I did what Jake did with the earpiece.

00:35:05.504 --> 00:35:08.595
And on a cold night, you could get
radio stations from Minneapolis.

00:35:08.595 --> 00:35:13.245
And I just became obsessed and I
just, I couldn't get enough of it.

00:35:13.305 --> 00:35:18.435
And I remember the first time I begged
a guy that worked at what was called

00:35:18.435 --> 00:35:26.285
CFOX in Montreal, before they bought the
call letters, I begged and begged and

00:35:26.285 --> 00:35:27.785
begged and begged and begged and begged.

00:35:27.785 --> 00:35:31.145
A guy, a guy, guy's name was
Andy K. And he said, I'm not

00:35:31.145 --> 00:35:32.194
allowed to have people in here.

00:35:32.194 --> 00:35:35.884
You can come up at midnight for
10 minutes and then you gotta go.

00:35:36.185 --> 00:35:39.575
And I remember when he pushed the control
room door open, it was, you know, it

00:35:39.575 --> 00:35:44.345
was 12:05, he pushed the control room
door open and anybody who works in radio

00:35:44.345 --> 00:35:48.525
knows what a control room looks like
in the dark with that digital yellow

00:35:48.525 --> 00:35:52.674
clock with the seconds ticking off and
the red and green lights on the board.

00:35:53.055 --> 00:35:57.384
And I remember being like,
it just, it washed over me.

00:35:57.384 --> 00:35:59.384
I thought, this is where I belong.

00:35:59.404 --> 00:36:01.745
I have got to figure out
how to do this for a living.

00:36:01.865 --> 00:36:03.274
Jim Conrad: And what was your first gig?

00:36:03.890 --> 00:36:08.420
Terry DiMonte: My very first gig was
through sheer luck, was in Churchill.

00:36:08.420 --> 00:36:14.060
I, I went to remember the days of
television when at the top of the

00:36:14.060 --> 00:36:18.440
hour they would come on, an announcer
would come on, you would know this,

00:36:19.040 --> 00:36:21.630
CBC television Channel six Montreal.

00:36:22.210 --> 00:36:23.370
And that's all you would do.

00:36:23.370 --> 00:36:24.180
Jim Conrad: A station ID.

00:36:24.210 --> 00:36:24.450
Terry DiMonte: Right.

00:36:24.470 --> 00:36:26.900
You would sit in the booth for
8 hours and they were looking

00:36:26.900 --> 00:36:28.190
for summer relief people.

00:36:28.190 --> 00:36:28.920
And I applied.

00:36:28.980 --> 00:36:33.110
I, I went and auditioned at the CBC
and I didn't get it, but there was a

00:36:33.110 --> 00:36:36.800
woman there that said, I, you know,
you asked me to be honest with you.

00:36:37.310 --> 00:36:40.850
Um, she said, I, I hear something
about you that I like and I'm gonna

00:36:40.850 --> 00:36:47.025
send your audition tape to Ottawa to
a, a division called Northern Service.

00:36:47.025 --> 00:36:48.165
I didn't know what that was.

00:36:48.225 --> 00:36:50.520
And they called me and off I went.

00:36:50.520 --> 00:36:52.455
Jim Conrad: And off you were
to the land of polar bears.

00:36:52.455 --> 00:36:52.725
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

00:36:52.725 --> 00:36:55.815
I was just, I, I didn't
even know I, I said yes.

00:36:55.815 --> 00:36:57.405
I didn't even know where Churchill was.

00:36:58.185 --> 00:36:59.145
Like I had to go home.

00:36:59.205 --> 00:37:00.945
You know, I, 'cause I
was unfamiliar with it.

00:37:00.945 --> 00:37:03.585
I thought it, I thought, am
I going to Churchill Falls?

00:37:03.615 --> 00:37:05.775
No, that's, that's the
other end of the country.

00:37:05.805 --> 00:37:08.535
Anyway, it just, you know, and off I went.

00:37:08.535 --> 00:37:14.124
I just, and, and I got lucky because at
CBC in the north, you're doing everything.

00:37:14.745 --> 00:37:19.464
You're cutting tape, producing, editing,
interviewing, doing sports, doing news

00:37:19.464 --> 00:37:23.634
like, you know, the, the population
when I got to Churchill was 2,800.

00:37:23.634 --> 00:37:23.785
Jim Conrad: Wow.

00:37:23.785 --> 00:37:26.455
Jake Edwards: But every small
radio station I've ever worked

00:37:26.455 --> 00:37:27.794
in, that's what you did.

00:37:27.794 --> 00:37:29.684
You had to label the carts.

00:37:30.104 --> 00:37:31.345
You had the voice, the carts.

00:37:31.345 --> 00:37:34.375
You had to mix the music, you
had to put 'em in rotation.

00:37:34.555 --> 00:37:38.424
The next guy in the morning show, you
had to take all these big huge bundle of

00:37:38.424 --> 00:37:43.765
carts that you've stacked for an hour as
you're doing 3 minute songs, putting it

00:37:43.765 --> 00:37:46.825
on, and then getting into it and go CKCW.

00:37:47.785 --> 00:37:52.615
And then he'd go to go to move the cart
thing and it falls all over the floor

00:37:52.765 --> 00:37:54.084
and you're pissed off just trying.

00:37:54.174 --> 00:37:58.495
Terry DiMonte: I, but don't, I, I feel
bad that, you know, I'm gonna sound like

00:37:58.495 --> 00:38:02.365
an old bastard, but I feel bad that the
business has changed so much that that

00:38:02.365 --> 00:38:04.105
experience isn't available anymore.

00:38:04.435 --> 00:38:07.825
Jake Edwards: Well, it really
prepared you to be quick on your feet.

00:38:07.825 --> 00:38:08.365
Terry DiMonte: Big time.

00:38:08.384 --> 00:38:08.444
Yeah.

00:38:08.444 --> 00:38:10.424
Jake Edwards: Quick on your feet
to get everything organized.

00:38:10.424 --> 00:38:14.654
Jim Conrad: Now, Jake, so your first
gig, uh, you played radio and then?

00:38:14.685 --> 00:38:15.855
Jake Edwards: Well, when I went to Boston,

00:38:15.855 --> 00:38:16.935
Jim Conrad: Then you went to Boston to?

00:38:16.964 --> 00:38:17.874
Jake Edwards: Leland Powers.

00:38:17.904 --> 00:38:20.654
The School of Acting Journalism TV.

00:38:21.015 --> 00:38:22.935
And, uh, had a good time there.

00:38:22.935 --> 00:38:27.404
And I had a radio show there, and that
was, you know, internal to the school.

00:38:27.714 --> 00:38:30.464
So that's the first time, you
know, that was just practice.

00:38:30.464 --> 00:38:33.254
Then came home and said, well, I'm ready.

00:38:33.345 --> 00:38:34.185
Let's get at it.

00:38:34.275 --> 00:38:35.565
So, you know, applied.

00:38:35.565 --> 00:38:38.955
And by that, you know, then used
to send tapes out, air checks out.

00:38:39.134 --> 00:38:43.995
So I just said to myself that
summer, let's get in a truck.

00:38:43.995 --> 00:38:48.734
My buddy next door had a Union
Jack painted 67 Chevrolet Van.

00:38:50.055 --> 00:38:54.345
We headed up the highway, route 11, and
we stopped at every small radio station.

00:38:54.345 --> 00:38:57.045
I said, I am not stopping
until I get a gig.

00:38:57.165 --> 00:38:58.095
Until I get a gig.

00:38:58.095 --> 00:38:58.545
Jim Conrad: Wow.

00:38:58.754 --> 00:39:02.535
Jake Edwards: And I went up and,
uh, I remember meeting this guy

00:39:02.535 --> 00:39:04.545
named Neil McMullen and Alan Bear.

00:39:04.575 --> 00:39:06.825
And I said, here I am.

00:39:06.825 --> 00:39:09.675
I basically, I really
want to get this done.

00:39:09.675 --> 00:39:12.345
I really want to be on the air and
I'm not stopping the minute, minute

00:39:12.345 --> 00:39:16.575
I go outta this station, I'm gonna go
into Rimouski 'cause I spoke French.

00:39:16.815 --> 00:39:19.515
Uh, and I basically was going
to give it on my all until

00:39:19.515 --> 00:39:20.654
I drove right across Canada.

00:39:20.685 --> 00:39:23.505
Terry DiMonte: Do you still have, I, I
still have some of my rejection letters.

00:39:23.505 --> 00:39:24.195
Do you have any of 'em?

00:39:24.195 --> 00:39:24.645
Jake Edwards: I do.

00:39:24.675 --> 00:39:25.695
Terry DiMonte: I, I still have some.

00:39:25.700 --> 00:39:25.750
Yeah.

00:39:25.750 --> 00:39:25.870
Jake Edwards: Yeah.

00:39:25.870 --> 00:39:26.775
I thought those are nice.

00:39:26.775 --> 00:39:28.365
Terry DiMonte: Yeah, they're
really, they're really, really nice.

00:39:28.365 --> 00:39:32.295
'Cause you had to, you know, I don't
know if you did it, but you had to do

00:39:32.295 --> 00:39:33.975
the cassette, put it in an envelope.

00:39:33.975 --> 00:39:36.615
Get the copy of broadcaster,
find the address.

00:39:36.615 --> 00:39:37.215
Jim Conrad: You find the address.

00:39:37.275 --> 00:39:37.395
Yeah.

00:39:37.395 --> 00:39:40.365
Terry DiMonte: Put the, put the
envelope, you know, and, and mail them.

00:39:41.115 --> 00:39:41.509
Jake Edwards: And then wait
for the mail to come back.

00:39:41.509 --> 00:39:45.495
Terry DiMonte: And then wait, and then,
you know, 8 outta 10 people didn't

00:39:45.495 --> 00:39:49.275
bother, but you know, one or two people
would send you a note saying, you suck.

00:39:49.275 --> 00:39:52.215
Or, you know, I, I, you know,
I think you're not bad, but we

00:39:52.215 --> 00:39:53.145
don't have anything for you.

00:39:53.145 --> 00:39:54.375
I still have some of those letters.

00:39:54.435 --> 00:39:55.695
Jake Edwards: Well, the time,

00:39:55.695 --> 00:39:57.015
Terry DiMonte: And those
stations are all gone.

00:39:57.075 --> 00:39:57.225
Jake Edwards: Yeah.

00:39:57.900 --> 00:40:00.735
This little CKBC Bathurst
was, uh, a French,

00:40:00.735 --> 00:40:01.710
Jim Conrad: So was that the first gig?

00:40:01.710 --> 00:40:02.670
Jake Edwards: That's the first gig.

00:40:02.730 --> 00:40:05.370
And the reason why they
wanted me, I'd go...

00:40:11.670 --> 00:40:14.250
and you just go into these tunes
and I didn't even know I was just

00:40:14.250 --> 00:40:17.010
fucking throwing shit out there
in from playing country music.

00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:18.930
Eight o'clock the rock
thing would come on.

00:40:18.930 --> 00:40:23.580
So I'd play rock music and then I
believe we used to tap into CBC's,

00:40:23.940 --> 00:40:26.250
is it, was it Anne Frum, or uh,

00:40:26.690 --> 00:40:28.770
Jim Conrad: Barbara Frum, As It Happens.

00:40:28.770 --> 00:40:29.490
Jake Edwards: As It Happens.

00:40:29.490 --> 00:40:32.610
So you'd go into a reel to reel
thing, and then at the end of that,

00:40:32.610 --> 00:40:35.880
you'd rock till one in the morning
and then shut the transmitter down.

00:40:35.990 --> 00:40:40.680
And we were in a place that was an
old, you know, a hundred year old home

00:40:40.680 --> 00:40:42.510
that the wind was coming through it.

00:40:42.510 --> 00:40:45.470
You could hear it on
air, it was cold as shit.

00:40:45.640 --> 00:40:49.950
You had blankets, you know, around
you in this old shitty station,

00:40:50.310 --> 00:40:52.100
but we loved every minute of it.

00:40:52.100 --> 00:40:57.050
And my first gig, uh, so I get there
and there was this Alan, I think

00:40:57.050 --> 00:41:02.160
his name was Alan Whiteside, and he
was on the air and he, uh, he quit.

00:41:02.160 --> 00:41:06.510
So I get there on a Tuesday and
I'm partying and I'm living with

00:41:06.540 --> 00:41:12.150
five disc jockeys in one house
with flags in the window, and

00:41:12.150 --> 00:41:14.610
there's water pipes, there's booze.

00:41:14.730 --> 00:41:15.900
Terry DiMonte: I can smell it from here.

00:41:16.080 --> 00:41:16.560
Jake Edwards: Oh my.

00:41:16.590 --> 00:41:17.100
Oh yeah.

00:41:17.130 --> 00:41:17.850
Very nice.

00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.160
So, uh, I'm sitting around,
it's Tuesday and this Alan

00:41:21.160 --> 00:41:22.830
Whiteside decides he's gonna quit.

00:41:23.220 --> 00:41:25.980
And then the program director called,
he said, you're on here in an hour.

00:41:26.310 --> 00:41:27.630
I said, no, I'm not.

00:41:28.110 --> 00:41:29.970
'Cause I was, I was out of my mind.

00:41:30.270 --> 00:41:33.110
At this point, I've been partying
for hours, going, I got the gig.

00:41:33.570 --> 00:41:35.280
And all of a sudden I'm there.

00:41:35.430 --> 00:41:36.600
I tee the record up.

00:41:37.110 --> 00:41:45.890
And I, I go to hit, I go to hit
the open mic, I go, ah, dang, dang.

00:41:45.890 --> 00:41:47.640
And then the next record comes around.

00:41:47.640 --> 00:41:48.404
I'm going, ah.

00:41:49.380 --> 00:41:53.190
And it took me three tries, three
different records, and finally I went on.

00:41:53.580 --> 00:41:57.420
And then, uh, it, it worked and
then I, I started from there.

00:41:57.420 --> 00:41:58.620
Jim Conrad: But, and the rest is history.

00:41:59.009 --> 00:42:00.000
Let me ask you this.

00:42:00.299 --> 00:42:07.650
How much of a ratio between
choice and luck was part of your,

00:42:07.710 --> 00:42:08.610
Terry DiMonte: That's a great question.

00:42:08.759 --> 00:42:09.330
Jim Conrad: Career.

00:42:09.509 --> 00:42:12.930
The ratio of choice to luck,
or was it lucky choices?

00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:19.020
Jake Edwards: Well, I've always looked
at, uh, myself and how most people, first

00:42:19.020 --> 00:42:21.280
of all, you have to have some talent.

00:42:22.140 --> 00:42:25.140
You've gotta have, be able to take risk.

00:42:25.650 --> 00:42:28.830
You can't worry about what's
gonna happen on the other end.

00:42:29.279 --> 00:42:33.330
And a lot of it is, there
is a big percentage of luck.

00:42:33.330 --> 00:42:38.040
I'm gonna say a third part of that
is luck, because you know, you've got

00:42:38.040 --> 00:42:41.269
the talent, you know, you've got the
energy, you can do all those things.

00:42:41.759 --> 00:42:43.890
But I think the part,
a third of it is luck.

00:42:43.890 --> 00:42:44.880
It's the lucky break.

00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:50.805
It's until you get to a certain plateau
where you become a hired gun, and then

00:42:50.835 --> 00:42:54.525
the luck thing seems, it's not as,
uh, you know, you're not as lucky.

00:42:54.555 --> 00:42:59.265
Oh God, I, I, you know, I won out over
whoever, uh, you know, I was beaten out

00:42:59.265 --> 00:43:02.205
trying to get into this morning show
because they were out looking for talent.

00:43:02.205 --> 00:43:06.195
So then the luck kind of balances
out where it's not as lucky.

00:43:06.315 --> 00:43:10.125
But in initially when you go in,
I kind of put it in three parts.

00:43:10.125 --> 00:43:14.595
Like a lot of, you know, a lot of
talent, a lot of energy, wanting

00:43:14.595 --> 00:43:19.245
to do it, and then that luck part
is slowly came down over time.

00:43:19.245 --> 00:43:19.484
Jim Conrad: Yeah.

00:43:19.605 --> 00:43:22.935
Um, Terry, um, luck versus choice?

00:43:23.295 --> 00:43:24.705
Terry DiMonte: I, I agree with Jake.

00:43:24.765 --> 00:43:27.705
Um, I, but what's funny is I agree.

00:43:27.765 --> 00:43:29.055
You've gotta have some ability.

00:43:29.055 --> 00:43:30.194
You've gotta have some talent.

00:43:30.194 --> 00:43:34.904
But what's funny about talent is talent
comes with a huge pile of insecurity.

00:43:35.024 --> 00:43:38.150
So when you're young you're
not sure you're talented.

00:43:38.200 --> 00:43:40.480
And you're afraid they're
gonna fire you at any second.

00:43:40.600 --> 00:43:43.030
And when the boss calls you
in, as Jake was saying before,

00:43:43.030 --> 00:43:45.100
you think, I'm in trouble.

00:43:45.100 --> 00:43:51.970
And then I think it was luck that I ended
up in that building in Polo Park with

00:43:51.970 --> 00:43:54.100
all these unbelievably talented people.

00:43:54.100 --> 00:43:58.960
I think there was a, a real element
of luck to me ending up there.

00:43:59.260 --> 00:44:02.290
Um, I think I agree with Jake.

00:44:02.380 --> 00:44:04.570
I, I took a big risk going to Churchill.

00:44:04.570 --> 00:44:07.660
I was shit scared, never
been away from home.

00:44:07.660 --> 00:44:11.710
And I ended up on the, you know, verge
of the Arctic Circle on the coast of

00:44:11.710 --> 00:44:14.890
Hudson's Bay, you know, when I got there
I thought, oh my God, what have I done?

00:44:15.310 --> 00:44:20.170
But then when you, you move along
in your career, then you have to be

00:44:20.170 --> 00:44:22.050
able to make choices and take risks.

00:44:22.050 --> 00:44:23.540
Like when I, I went to show

00:44:23.540 --> 00:44:25.100
Jim Conrad: And not be, not
be afraid to make a choice.

00:44:25.100 --> 00:44:25.600
Terry DiMonte: Exactly.

00:44:25.900 --> 00:44:26.140
Yeah.

00:44:26.140 --> 00:44:30.700
I, I loved where I was at in Winnipeg when
I was in Winnipeg in 84, and I got offered

00:44:30.700 --> 00:44:33.690
the morning show at CHUM FM in Montreal.

00:44:34.080 --> 00:44:35.970
And I'd never done a morning show before.

00:44:36.030 --> 00:44:37.140
I talked to him about it.

00:44:37.200 --> 00:44:40.710
I talked to a few people and I said,
ah, fuck, I don't know if I can do this.

00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.880
And Jake, and Magic and a few other
people said, of course you can do this.

00:44:44.910 --> 00:44:46.020
You'll, you'll figure it out.

00:44:46.500 --> 00:44:50.580
And, and then when, as Jake points out,
once the ball gets rolling, like when I

00:44:50.580 --> 00:44:54.090
ended up in Calgary, they phoned me, you
know, and then they were headhunting.

00:44:54.090 --> 00:44:54.300
Jake Edwards: Yeah.

00:44:54.300 --> 00:44:55.080
And they wanted you.

00:44:55.110 --> 00:44:55.290
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

00:44:55.290 --> 00:44:56.340
And they, they wanted me.

00:44:56.340 --> 00:45:00.000
So the, you know, once your career gets
going, I, I, I think it's all about choice

00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.160
and risk and, and understanding where
your talents are gonna work and stuff.

00:45:05.160 --> 00:45:08.730
But I, I think at the beginning, you,
you do need a good chunk of luck.

00:45:08.790 --> 00:45:12.540
And I, and that, that third,
a third luck, a third talent

00:45:12.540 --> 00:45:13.260
and what was the other thing?

00:45:13.260 --> 00:45:13.770
Jake Edwards: Energy.

00:45:13.770 --> 00:45:14.220
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

00:45:14.220 --> 00:45:16.230
I, I, I think that's a pretty good theory.

00:45:16.530 --> 00:45:22.440
But I, I really, I am so grateful
that I literally stumbled into

00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:24.420
Polo Park in Winnipeg and CITI-FM.

00:45:24.720 --> 00:45:29.530
That set the stage for what was a
fairly successful career for me.

00:45:29.944 --> 00:45:32.795
Jim Conrad: Now, uh, you
both are morning show hosts.

00:45:32.975 --> 00:45:38.045
How is that day part and how is
that job description in radio

00:45:38.045 --> 00:45:40.475
different than all of the others?

00:45:40.475 --> 00:45:45.335
What, what are the unique qualities
that, that you guys have honed to be

00:45:45.335 --> 00:45:49.924
able to say, I'm a morning show guy,
you can hire me as your new morning

00:45:49.924 --> 00:45:51.845
show man, because I know what to do.

00:45:51.904 --> 00:45:54.154
Terry DiMonte: Well, first of all, um, if

00:45:54.214 --> 00:45:54.904
Jim Conrad: Getting up early.

00:45:55.055 --> 00:45:59.944
Terry DiMonte: Well, yeah, but even
more so if you are radio, if you have

00:45:59.944 --> 00:46:04.475
the radio bug like Jake and I did, and
you got into the business, you knew

00:46:04.835 --> 00:46:08.404
if you wanted to be at the top of the
game, you had to do the morning show.

00:46:08.464 --> 00:46:09.424
You had to get there.

00:46:09.934 --> 00:46:14.194
So a lot of us started doing
other things, but the morning

00:46:14.194 --> 00:46:16.595
show was the pinnacle of the day.

00:46:16.595 --> 00:46:19.174
It paid the most, it
had the most attention.

00:46:19.535 --> 00:46:22.265
So you knew you had to figure
out how to get the morning chair.

00:46:22.295 --> 00:46:24.424
Jim Conrad: You put your best
talent in the morning show.

00:46:24.455 --> 00:46:24.845
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

00:46:25.145 --> 00:46:25.504
And.

00:46:25.850 --> 00:46:31.220
I know from, and Jake knows this too,
from doing all nights and swing and

00:46:31.220 --> 00:46:35.960
afternoons, once you get to the morning
show chair, it's a whole different kettle

00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:39.800
of fish and you have to make a lot of
adjustments and you have to understand

00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:41.360
the audience that you're talking to.

00:46:41.540 --> 00:46:44.650
You just need a different set of tools
in your belt for the morning show.

00:46:44.650 --> 00:46:48.020
Jake Edwards: Because i, I believe that,
uh, you were probably an evening guy too.

00:46:48.020 --> 00:46:49.430
I mean, just the way you lived.

00:46:49.430 --> 00:46:50.060
That's what I did.

00:46:50.060 --> 00:46:51.220
I was an evening rock jock.

00:46:51.529 --> 00:46:53.870
I thought for sure that's
what I was going to be.

00:46:53.870 --> 00:46:58.250
I had a couple offers to go
to New York and Miami and LA.

00:46:58.460 --> 00:47:01.430
At that time, I was just, this
am thing was a buzz, and that's

00:47:01.430 --> 00:47:04.730
what I was honing my craft for
and that's what I wanted to be.

00:47:04.820 --> 00:47:09.200
And then when I got the morning show gig,
I remember when, you know, Gary picked me

00:47:09.200 --> 00:47:10.990
up and we went over to the Vicount Gort.

00:47:11.029 --> 00:47:11.970
That's where I stayed.

00:47:11.990 --> 00:47:12.800
It was a, you know,

00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:13.610
Terry DiMonte: It's still there too.

00:47:13.610 --> 00:47:14.350
Jake Edwards: It's still there.

00:47:14.650 --> 00:47:19.040
And I remember just, he said,
you should probably get a nap

00:47:19.250 --> 00:47:21.694
and get ready to do the show.

00:47:21.845 --> 00:47:23.705
And I went, well, you know, I got lot.

00:47:23.705 --> 00:47:25.475
And of course I couldn't
sleep the whole night.

00:47:25.475 --> 00:47:28.955
I got up in the morning
and, you know, went to work.

00:47:29.495 --> 00:47:30.875
Uh, I did the first show.

00:47:30.875 --> 00:47:32.524
I came home, passed out.

00:47:32.884 --> 00:47:34.475
I woke up that afternoon.

00:47:34.475 --> 00:47:37.924
The bed was soaked, I was
soaked, I was sweated so much.

00:47:37.924 --> 00:47:42.184
I had no idea what I was doing, and I
thought, this is, this isn't gonna work.

00:47:42.834 --> 00:47:48.335
So I had, it took practice to switch my
psyche over to morning, but once I got

00:47:48.335 --> 00:47:53.305
it, and for the next, you know, 40 years
or so, you know, basically getting up

00:47:53.305 --> 00:47:58.045
at four o'clock in the morning, uh, you
know, having my, I get in, have a bath,

00:47:58.045 --> 00:48:03.535
I, you know, read the papers, get myself
ready, uh, do the show, get off the

00:48:03.535 --> 00:48:07.435
show, write the bits, produce the bits,
have them ready to go for the next day.

00:48:07.435 --> 00:48:09.385
And anything that changed
overnight, you were on it.

00:48:09.915 --> 00:48:13.165
Terry DiMonte: Um, yeah, but the
other thing that was fun to watch

00:48:13.165 --> 00:48:16.405
when Jake was doing the morning
show was he just didn't sleep.

00:48:16.525 --> 00:48:18.715
He, he just, he was constant.

00:48:19.135 --> 00:48:19.795
No, it's true.

00:48:19.795 --> 00:48:21.535
You a barrel, barrel of energy.

00:48:21.535 --> 00:48:26.695
And when I look back on it, um, I'm,
you know, you were lucky to survive.

00:48:26.755 --> 00:48:28.925
I mean, just from your motorcycles alone.

00:48:28.955 --> 00:48:29.715
You were lucky.

00:48:29.855 --> 00:48:31.315
You were lucky to survive.

00:48:31.315 --> 00:48:35.030
I went for one motorcycle
ride for you, with you,

00:48:35.030 --> 00:48:36.070
Jake Edwards: You were
on my race bike though.

00:48:36.450 --> 00:48:39.109
Terry DiMonte: And, and I, I cried.

00:48:39.290 --> 00:48:46.035
Like I, I was so frightened and I screamed
so loud from Charles Wood to Polo Park.

00:48:46.275 --> 00:48:49.265
I just, I kept like, oh, Jake, stop it.

00:48:51.095 --> 00:48:54.905
And, and, and he, you approached
your morning show with that.

00:48:54.935 --> 00:48:58.175
There were often times where,
'cause I was doing afternoons.

00:48:58.175 --> 00:48:58.835
Jim Conrad: Full throttle.

00:48:59.055 --> 00:48:59.365
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

00:48:59.845 --> 00:49:05.315
I was off the air at, at, uh, six
or seven and we'd go to a thing and

00:49:05.315 --> 00:49:09.965
I, you know, like Andy Frost used to
have legendary parties at his place,

00:49:10.355 --> 00:49:12.275
um, on a street called Dorchester.

00:49:12.275 --> 00:49:14.445
So we would all say we're
going over to Dorch.

00:49:14.465 --> 00:49:14.805
Jake Edwards: 825.

00:49:14.805 --> 00:49:15.285
Dorch.

00:49:15.305 --> 00:49:15.395
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

00:49:15.575 --> 00:49:16.715
For, for a party.

00:49:16.715 --> 00:49:21.515
And I would say to Jake at like 10 to
12 Jakey, you gotta work in the morning.

00:49:21.815 --> 00:49:21.965
Yeah.

00:49:21.965 --> 00:49:22.145
Yeah.

00:49:22.145 --> 00:49:22.685
I'll be good.

00:49:22.745 --> 00:49:23.165
I'll be good.

00:49:23.915 --> 00:49:24.165
I'll be good.

00:49:24.165 --> 00:49:24.515
You'll be fine.

00:49:25.020 --> 00:49:28.634
And, and sure enough
jump on the motorcycle.

00:49:28.634 --> 00:49:29.025
Go.

00:49:29.685 --> 00:49:30.674
He'd answer the bell.

00:49:31.035 --> 00:49:31.964
He'd answer the bell.

00:49:31.964 --> 00:49:36.045
So I, I think that at the kind,
the style of radio that you did

00:49:36.045 --> 00:49:41.285
and, and the, the energy that was
required, uh, he was built for it.

00:49:41.285 --> 00:49:45.565
'Cause you didn't, you, you must admit
back then you didn't need a lot of sleep.

00:49:45.565 --> 00:49:46.725
I don't know what it is now.

00:49:46.725 --> 00:49:50.504
But you, you, you'd get three,
four hours and you were good to go.

00:49:50.504 --> 00:49:50.900
Jake Edwards: That's right.

00:49:51.250 --> 00:49:55.245
Jim Conrad: Now Jake did, did, did
somebody tell you or did you just intuit

00:49:55.245 --> 00:49:58.095
yourself, okay, I'm doing a morning show.

00:49:58.484 --> 00:49:59.444
I've gotta be funny.

00:50:00.330 --> 00:50:01.350
How did that evolve?

00:50:01.890 --> 00:50:03.750
Jake Edwards: Well,
that's a good question.

00:50:03.779 --> 00:50:07.410
Um, because I always considered
my, considered myself a

00:50:07.410 --> 00:50:08.799
bit of a buffoon anyway.

00:50:09.329 --> 00:50:11.609
So it was always about being funny.

00:50:11.670 --> 00:50:12.589
Jim Conrad: I wouldn't say that.

00:50:12.589 --> 00:50:13.519
Jake Edwards: Like you, you know.

00:50:13.669 --> 00:50:13.990
You know.

00:50:13.990 --> 00:50:19.660
So, but I always thought that I was
at any party, anybody that was around,

00:50:20.170 --> 00:50:22.310
um, I would try to make them laugh.

00:50:22.340 --> 00:50:23.390
I did that as a kid.

00:50:23.410 --> 00:50:26.800
I went all the way through my whole
life had to be the center of the

00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:28.840
attention for the funny stuff.

00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:29.830
My mom was like that.

00:50:29.830 --> 00:50:34.090
She was, you know, my mom would be in
the, in the kitchen, drop an air biscuit.

00:50:34.540 --> 00:50:37.840
Oh, you know where most women
will not even say anything.

00:50:38.020 --> 00:50:38.860
My grandmother.

00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:42.880
My grandmother would drop air
biscuits at 85 years old going,

00:50:42.885 --> 00:50:44.260
Terry DiMonte: Wait, wait
a minute, women fart?

00:50:44.350 --> 00:50:45.550
Jake Edwards: Yeah, they do.

00:50:45.820 --> 00:50:47.950
Yeah, my sister said,
never farted in my life.

00:50:47.950 --> 00:50:48.730
Bullshit.

00:50:49.300 --> 00:50:52.365
But my grandmother, oh look
here, come on over here Jakey.

00:50:52.685 --> 00:50:54.445
Here's some sweet biscuits.

00:50:54.605 --> 00:50:58.300
And she'd just drop a sweet
frap biscuit right in.

00:50:58.300 --> 00:51:00.010
I was like, grandmother
for Christ's sakes.

00:51:00.010 --> 00:51:00.670
What's going on?

00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:03.730
And of course, the whole
room would've just lose it.

00:51:04.090 --> 00:51:08.110
So at an early age, I
think that I was prepped.

00:51:08.290 --> 00:51:09.790
Jim Conrad: So your family prepped you for

00:51:09.790 --> 00:51:11.540
Jake Edwards: Family
prepped me to be funny.

00:51:11.540 --> 00:51:15.700
So I basically just let
myself go on the air.

00:51:15.700 --> 00:51:21.160
And when I got comfortable enough to, to
do that, uh, that's when things changed.

00:51:21.160 --> 00:51:24.540
And I will say, uh, Wayne
Yaski, who you know very well.

00:51:24.980 --> 00:51:29.879
Uh, Wayne, uh, basically taught me a
lot and he was just a funny, funny guy,

00:51:30.150 --> 00:51:34.529
but he took me to another point where
he would laugh at the cruelty of life.

00:51:34.529 --> 00:51:35.370
I was never like that.

00:51:35.370 --> 00:51:38.700
I had didn't have the heart to
do the crueler type jokes, you

00:51:38.700 --> 00:51:41.250
know, with, uh, you know, uh, hey.

00:51:41.520 --> 00:51:42.330
Nice haircut.

00:51:42.420 --> 00:51:44.640
Excuse me, please remove that bathing cap.

00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:46.109
No bathing caps in here.

00:51:46.680 --> 00:51:47.700
You know, stuff like that.

00:51:47.700 --> 00:51:52.020
It started to happen and I would use
that on the air, which I guess made

00:51:52.020 --> 00:51:53.629
me kind of a kerney act, really.

00:51:54.279 --> 00:51:55.259
Like, you know what I mean?

00:51:55.470 --> 00:51:56.279
Terry DiMonte: It's, you're entertaining.

00:51:56.310 --> 00:52:00.150
Jake Edwards: It was entertaining, I
guess, but I always, uh, I, I really cut

00:52:00.210 --> 00:52:03.720
my, my teeth right there in Winnipeg.

00:52:03.750 --> 00:52:04.830
I learned a lot.

00:52:05.430 --> 00:52:08.009
Winnipeggers are the,
are the funniest people.

00:52:08.009 --> 00:52:09.900
Look at the music that's
come outta Winnipeg.

00:52:09.980 --> 00:52:10.630
You know what I mean?

00:52:10.650 --> 00:52:13.029
The, uh, because it's so fucking cold.

00:52:13.089 --> 00:52:15.150
Winnipeg Symphony, Winnipeg Ballet.

00:52:15.210 --> 00:52:19.529
Stuff that is highbrow big
time happens in Winnipeg.

00:52:19.710 --> 00:52:23.819
Jim Conrad: Let's talk about
relationships and music because,

00:52:23.850 --> 00:52:25.049
uh, you both love music.

00:52:25.049 --> 00:52:29.490
Music was a big part of your shows,
your relationship with artists, which,

00:52:29.520 --> 00:52:35.160
which musical artists were you inspired
by and who really impressed you?

00:52:35.715 --> 00:52:37.905
Who did you, who did you
become good friends with?

00:52:38.085 --> 00:52:41.775
Jake Edwards: Well, the Canadian artists,
um, were always at the radio station.

00:52:41.775 --> 00:52:45.595
I was at Q104, which is a station
you're quite familiar with in Halifax.

00:52:45.595 --> 00:52:46.695
Because you're the voice guy there.

00:52:47.025 --> 00:52:49.545
Jim Conrad: Q 104 Halifax.

00:52:49.605 --> 00:52:52.335
Jake Edwards: But, you know,
Honeymoon Suite would pop in, uh,

00:52:52.725 --> 00:52:55.725
in Toronto was the Black Crows
that came and stayed for a week.

00:52:55.725 --> 00:52:59.535
And Mickey, our engineer, went out and
said, he said, can you get us some pot?

00:52:59.655 --> 00:53:01.005
Mike Mickey said, absolutely.

00:53:01.035 --> 00:53:05.895
Came back and laid a pound of
pot on the pool table and they

00:53:05.895 --> 00:53:08.325
just, they started rolling joints
over there for like seven days.

00:53:08.355 --> 00:53:09.995
We couldn't get rid of the Black Crows.

00:53:15.135 --> 00:53:18.555
Uh, and then, you know, you look at
Colin James would come into the radio

00:53:18.555 --> 00:53:22.155
station the same way .Colin James
would take that del bro guitar and

00:53:22.155 --> 00:53:27.180
just play and have a Neuman microphone
at the bottom and just playing like

00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:29.970
crazy and you'd go, this is so great.

00:53:29.970 --> 00:53:34.110
54 40. The Odds, uh, Alice
Cooper would come into

00:53:36.370 --> 00:53:37.110
town.

00:53:37.140 --> 00:53:39.720
First thing he wanted me
to do was go play golf.

00:53:39.720 --> 00:53:43.350
And I met him in Winnipeg the very
first time and he said, you play golf.

00:53:43.350 --> 00:53:44.040
I said, I do.

00:53:44.340 --> 00:53:45.060
So let's go play.

00:53:45.060 --> 00:53:48.720
So every time he came to Winnipeg,
him and I would go out and play golf.

00:53:48.990 --> 00:53:52.075
And then when we got to
Toronto, his then manager.

00:53:52.670 --> 00:53:55.670
Said, whatever you do, Jake,
do not mention golf, because it

00:53:55.670 --> 00:53:57.800
wasn't part of his image, right?

00:53:57.800 --> 00:53:58.810
It wasn't part of the image.

00:53:58.810 --> 00:54:02.180
So the first thing outta my mouth
was, Hey, you still playing golf?

00:54:02.180 --> 00:54:02.630
Let's get out.

00:54:03.110 --> 00:54:07.670
And the, the manager jumped over the board
and tried to strangle me on air, Live.

00:54:07.670 --> 00:54:08.450
Terry DiMonte: I forget his name.

00:54:08.450 --> 00:54:10.340
He's a legendary guy too, his manager.

00:54:10.345 --> 00:54:13.130
And, and we, we were really lucky.

00:54:13.250 --> 00:54:17.850
Speaking of luck, we worked in an
era where radio mattered to artists.

00:54:18.300 --> 00:54:21.965
And, and they, you know that
those days are long gone.

00:54:22.125 --> 00:54:27.620
And if you said to, I remember
when the Police came to town and

00:54:27.830 --> 00:54:31.340
you know, there's Stuart Copeland
standing at the control room door.

00:54:31.580 --> 00:54:33.680
That never would happen today.

00:54:33.860 --> 00:54:37.550
And I remember one of the first
interviews I did was with Eddie Money.

00:54:37.550 --> 00:54:39.069
And Eddie Money was big.

00:54:42.939 --> 00:54:45.650
He was a big star in 78, 79, 80.

00:54:46.030 --> 00:54:49.709
He was big, and they said, Eddie Money's
coming in, you're gonna interview him.

00:54:49.709 --> 00:54:51.120
And I was so scared.

00:54:51.209 --> 00:54:52.500
And he was so nice.

00:54:52.500 --> 00:54:59.339
We had such a good time and we, we
just shot it out there and said to

00:54:59.339 --> 00:55:02.009
him, Hey, you know, after the gig
tonight, we're gonna be at the gig,

00:55:02.009 --> 00:55:04.259
but we're having a bash, uh, tonight.

00:55:04.649 --> 00:55:08.790
And I laughed and I thought to
myself, Eddie Money's not coming

00:55:08.790 --> 00:55:10.830
to our stupid party in Winnipeg.

00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:14.700
And at like 1230, the doorbell
rang and Eddie Money was

00:55:14.700 --> 00:55:16.230
standing at the fucking door.

00:55:16.590 --> 00:55:17.975
I like those, those

00:55:17.975 --> 00:55:20.070
Jim Conrad: 'Cause it was the only
thing going on in Winnipeg that night.

00:55:20.070 --> 00:55:22.830
Terry DiMonte: Well, yeah, and,
and, and that era of radio, as you

00:55:22.830 --> 00:55:26.940
remember, Jim ,was footloose and
fancy free to quote Rod Stewart.

00:55:26.940 --> 00:55:31.050
You know, it was a, it was a time
where the guys didn't look at coming

00:55:31.050 --> 00:55:35.160
into the radio station as, as,
uh, you know, part of their gig.

00:55:35.370 --> 00:55:36.420
They looked forward to it.

00:55:36.420 --> 00:55:37.530
They had fun with it.

00:55:37.560 --> 00:55:41.160
It was, it was a, it was a time
that doesn't exist anymore.

00:55:41.340 --> 00:55:44.580
Jim Conrad: So, Jake, tell me
about you and Jeff Bridges.

00:55:44.670 --> 00:55:46.350
Jeff Bridges: Wait, let me, let
me explain something to you.

00:55:46.500 --> 00:55:52.350
Um, I'm the dude, so that's what you
call me, you know, uh, that or, uh,

00:55:52.410 --> 00:55:57.210
his dudeness or, uh, duder or, uh,
you know, El Dude a Reno, if you're

00:55:57.210 --> 00:55:58.740
not into the whole brevity thing.

00:55:58.800 --> 00:55:59.655
Terry DiMonte: This, this is good story.

00:55:59.655 --> 00:55:59.775
Jake Edwards: Yeah.

00:55:59.775 --> 00:56:01.325
This is, uh, a good story.

00:56:03.185 --> 00:56:05.935
Well, it is, hope no longer.

00:56:05.935 --> 00:56:06.694
Hang on.

00:56:06.725 --> 00:56:09.390
Thanks for the, uh, the,
uh, libation of Macallan.

00:56:09.420 --> 00:56:09.990
Jim Conrad: You're welcome.

00:56:09.990 --> 00:56:10.680
Jake Edwards: That's very nice.

00:56:11.149 --> 00:56:16.500
Uh, Jeff came into my life
through Frenchy at Joe Fortes,

00:56:16.500 --> 00:56:17.835
Jim Conrad: Who's a maître d'
at one of the local restaurants.

00:56:17.835 --> 00:56:20.670
Jake Edwards: So all the rock stars,
that's how we met all the actors and

00:56:20.670 --> 00:56:23.350
people, uh, came into Joe Fortes.

00:56:23.370 --> 00:56:28.019
So he would always manage to set a plate
and he would tell, uh, Jeff Bridges,

00:56:28.020 --> 00:56:29.520
you gotta meet this guy, Brother Jake.

00:56:29.610 --> 00:56:30.600
We got to meet.

00:56:30.660 --> 00:56:31.410
We hung out.

00:56:31.410 --> 00:56:33.690
And he said, do you think
you can get a boat set up?

00:56:33.990 --> 00:56:35.825
Frenchy's telling me to get a boat set up.

00:56:35.825 --> 00:56:40.535
We'll take Jeff out and basically we'll
go out on down to Indian arm, right?

00:56:40.625 --> 00:56:41.995
So of course he's the dude.

00:56:42.595 --> 00:56:44.375
So we get the boat all organized.

00:56:44.375 --> 00:56:46.595
We have the White Russians, if
you've ever watched the dude, of

00:56:46.595 --> 00:56:48.154
course he loved the white Russians.

00:56:48.245 --> 00:56:51.395
We had a couple of bartenders,
we had a skipper, we had a 58

00:56:51.395 --> 00:56:53.765
sedan bridge, Searight brand new.

00:56:53.975 --> 00:56:57.785
And I took the whole morning show team,
we all went down and all of a sudden

00:56:57.785 --> 00:57:01.774
Jeff's coming around the corner and
he comes onto the boat and it was like

00:57:01.805 --> 00:57:04.055
we, we've known each other for years.

00:57:04.055 --> 00:57:09.245
He was just the most gentle, real,
not a movie star kind of guy.

00:57:09.305 --> 00:57:10.444
And away we went.

00:57:10.444 --> 00:57:14.524
So we're all the way down and uh, just
sitting around drinking White Russians.

00:57:14.855 --> 00:57:18.274
And he talked about every movie that
he's ever done, that we've, that I've

00:57:18.274 --> 00:57:19.955
watched, 'cause I've been such a fan.

00:57:20.045 --> 00:57:22.745
And it was just like the guy was so real.

00:57:23.265 --> 00:57:27.015
Uh, he just, he, he didn't seem
like a movie star after a while.

00:57:27.015 --> 00:57:29.634
Terry DiMonte: No, it's, it's
interesting when that falls away, eh?

00:57:29.655 --> 00:57:34.865
It just, like, when you first meet them,
you're like, oh, and, and it falls away.

00:57:34.865 --> 00:57:37.215
And you, and, and you're
talking to like a person.

00:57:37.215 --> 00:57:38.235
It's a cool feeling.

00:57:38.235 --> 00:57:43.215
Jake Edwards: So at the end of it, we
get back and he loves to play guitar.

00:57:43.215 --> 00:57:44.205
He's a musician.

00:57:44.565 --> 00:57:48.585
Uh, the Academy Award that
he won was basically about a

00:57:48.615 --> 00:57:50.085
down and out country singer.

00:57:50.475 --> 00:57:51.225
And, uh,

00:57:51.255 --> 00:57:51.765
Jim Conrad: Crazy Heart.

00:57:51.765 --> 00:57:52.485
Jake Edwards: Crazy heart.

00:57:52.630 --> 00:57:53.330
Jeff Bridges: I'm Bad Blake.

00:57:53.550 --> 00:57:55.490
My tombstone will have my real name on it.

00:57:55.490 --> 00:57:57.825
Until then, I'm just going to stay bad.

00:57:58.035 --> 00:58:00.705
Jake Edwards: And so he said,
uh, you know, so he had the

00:58:00.705 --> 00:58:01.995
tunes going on in the background.

00:58:01.995 --> 00:58:02.775
I said, who is that?

00:58:03.030 --> 00:58:05.085
And he said, oh yeah,
we put this together.

00:58:05.085 --> 00:58:07.395
This is gonna be for my
new movie, Crazy Heart.

00:58:07.785 --> 00:58:08.955
And I went, oh, what's that about?

00:58:08.955 --> 00:58:09.555
Blah, blah, blah.

00:58:09.555 --> 00:58:12.615
He wins the Academy Award
and at the end we get back.

00:58:12.615 --> 00:58:15.015
I said, look, you want
to come up to my place?

00:58:15.405 --> 00:58:18.075
And he's, and we just lived right
around the corner in Coal Harbor.

00:58:18.405 --> 00:58:19.935
So Lori's out at girl's night.

00:58:20.235 --> 00:58:22.095
He's at my place at midnight.

00:58:22.605 --> 00:58:26.005
And I've got this black
hash we're hot knifing,

00:58:26.025 --> 00:58:28.520
Jim Conrad: You're, you've got
the blow torch, got the hot

00:58:28.830 --> 00:58:31.405
same blow torch from 92 CITI-FM.

00:58:31.425 --> 00:58:34.545
Jake Edwards: And we're singing
our asses off playing and

00:58:34.605 --> 00:58:36.255
all of a sudden that was it.

00:58:36.255 --> 00:58:38.175
Then his stunt double was there.

00:58:38.595 --> 00:58:39.570
Uh, that, that

00:58:39.580 --> 00:58:40.860
Jim Conrad: Always have a stunt double.

00:58:40.860 --> 00:58:41.910
Always have a stunt,

00:58:41.925 --> 00:58:43.215
Jake Edwards: A security
guy, stunt double.

00:58:43.575 --> 00:58:46.005
And he basically got him out
of there and brought him home.

00:58:46.005 --> 00:58:49.155
He had a driver and then every
time he came back to town,

00:58:49.155 --> 00:58:50.175
we would always hang out.

00:58:50.535 --> 00:58:51.465
Jim Conrad: So Terry, how about you?

00:58:51.585 --> 00:58:57.585
Um, was there a, a musician that you were
completely impressed by that you loved?

00:58:57.915 --> 00:58:59.445
Terry DiMonte: For me, the
big one was Elton John.

00:58:59.445 --> 00:59:03.165
I was such a massive Elton
John fan when I was a kid.

00:59:03.525 --> 00:59:05.805
That that was, that was really a big deal.

00:59:12.270 --> 00:59:17.819
And what, what struck me or what's
always impressed me is I've met very

00:59:17.819 --> 00:59:22.140
few pricks, uh, you know, and, and,
and, uh, you know, they say they never

00:59:22.140 --> 00:59:23.370
meet your heroes, blah, blah, blah.

00:59:23.640 --> 00:59:26.880
Elton John was kind and he was sweet
and he was, you know, he is a good

00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:31.350
and decent man and, you know, nice
to his fans and, you know, there's

00:59:31.350 --> 00:59:34.799
a, there's a bunch of people over the
years that I've met, you know, uh,

00:59:34.830 --> 00:59:37.980
that have left an impression with me.

00:59:38.040 --> 00:59:39.180
Um, uh,

00:59:39.180 --> 00:59:40.390
Jim Conrad: The late great Miles Goodwyn.

00:59:40.444 --> 00:59:40.980
Terry DiMonte: Yeah, yeah.

00:59:40.980 --> 00:59:43.860
Miles Goodwyn was, I, it
was really, really sad.

00:59:43.860 --> 00:59:44.520
Jim Conrad: From April Wine.

00:59:44.850 --> 00:59:51.000
Terry DiMonte: I was asked by, uh,
the, um, Canadian Walk of Fame to

00:59:51.060 --> 00:59:53.700
participate in the ceremonies last fall.

00:59:54.150 --> 00:59:56.700
And they asked me to bring on April Wine.

01:00:02.490 --> 01:00:05.970
And I, you know, 'cause I was from
Montreal and there's a connection

01:00:05.970 --> 01:00:09.870
there and I know Brian Greenway
and I've known Miles for years.

01:00:09.930 --> 01:00:15.925
And, um, we were backstage, you know,
and I said to Miles, I said, this is

01:00:15.925 --> 01:00:17.755
a really full circle moment for me.

01:00:17.755 --> 01:00:18.805
It's kind of weird.

01:00:19.465 --> 01:00:23.515
I said, you played my high school
carnival, you know, and, and now I'm

01:00:23.515 --> 01:00:26.635
here standing backstage talking to
you and you're, you know, you're going

01:00:26.635 --> 01:00:30.025
into the, this Canadian Walk of Fame,
like towards the end of your career.

01:00:30.025 --> 01:00:32.035
And I can't believe I'm bringing you on.

01:00:32.035 --> 01:00:34.055
It's, he said, well, it's
an honor for me, Terry.

01:00:34.075 --> 01:00:37.075
And it's, I'm glad you're doing it
'cause you're a Montrealer and blah.

01:00:37.315 --> 01:00:39.355
We had this really,
really nice conversation.

01:00:39.685 --> 01:00:41.785
And one of the things I talked
to him about, I said like,

01:00:42.025 --> 01:00:43.435
retired, like, how do you retire?

01:00:43.435 --> 01:00:46.885
He said, well, you know, I still play,
I'm still writing, you know, I love, you

01:00:46.885 --> 01:00:49.945
know, I'm gonna golf and I'm gonna do
this and I wanna be with my grandkids.

01:00:49.945 --> 01:00:51.565
And, and a month later he was gone.

01:00:51.955 --> 01:00:52.975
Was really, really sad.

01:00:53.065 --> 01:00:57.595
Jake Edwards: Miles Goodwyn, uh, and
I had a relationship, uh, at every

01:00:57.595 --> 01:00:59.175
radio station I've ever worked at.

01:00:59.175 --> 01:01:01.735
Because I would go to the
concert and I would be the guy

01:01:01.735 --> 01:01:03.855
on stage bringing April Wine on.

01:01:04.035 --> 01:01:04.665
Terry DiMonte: Remember those days?

01:01:04.875 --> 01:01:05.115
Jake Edwards: Oh God.

01:01:05.115 --> 01:01:05.504
God.

01:01:05.774 --> 01:01:11.384
So, you know, if I was in Bathurst or New
Glasgow or Sydney or Moncton, he would

01:01:11.384 --> 01:01:13.785
come into town and we would go golfing.

01:01:13.785 --> 01:01:16.815
So I always considered myself
a pretty good pal with Miles.

01:01:16.815 --> 01:01:21.884
So, short story, long story
short, he ended up here and we

01:01:21.884 --> 01:01:23.595
played this big Whistler event.

01:01:23.595 --> 01:01:27.890
I hadn't seen him in probably
30 years, maybe 25, 30 years.

01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:34.010
And I was the MC and I'm bringing him
up on stage and, and, and before I

01:01:34.010 --> 01:01:35.840
brought him up on stage, I was backstage.

01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:37.850
I said, Hey, it's really
good to see you again, Miles.

01:01:38.120 --> 01:01:38.660
Awesome.

01:01:38.660 --> 01:01:39.500
He said, who are you?

01:01:42.105 --> 01:01:46.160
I, I said, uh, I'm the
guy from New Brunswick.

01:01:46.370 --> 01:01:49.460
Uh, your good pal, good pal, Jake.

01:01:49.850 --> 01:01:54.620
So, and I remember distinctly,
and again, listen, Miles, uh,

01:01:54.620 --> 01:01:57.020
you know, and what a guitarist.

01:01:57.020 --> 01:02:01.030
Uh, but I remember every one of them
the guys I'm meeting, every one of

01:02:01.030 --> 01:02:04.530
them, had weapons grade halitosis.

01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:08.420
I'm, I'm not just talking about, you
know, oh my God, your breath stinks.

01:02:08.690 --> 01:02:11.359
This was weapons grade halitosis.

01:02:11.700 --> 01:02:15.680
So I, so I go up and then, you
know, and I, he said, I, I just

01:02:15.680 --> 01:02:17.240
don't remember any, you know?

01:02:17.270 --> 01:02:17.660
No.

01:02:17.660 --> 01:02:18.440
And I'm up stage.

01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:20.130
I said, Miles Goodwyn.

01:02:20.625 --> 01:02:23.805
Used to be a really good friend
of mine, back here on stage.

01:02:24.225 --> 01:02:27.555
And then he's playing, uh, you
know, uh, playing one of the songs.

01:02:27.555 --> 01:02:30.524
And he looked at me, he went fuckin' Jake.

01:02:31.439 --> 01:02:31.730
Jake.

01:02:32.325 --> 01:02:33.165
And he, it came in.

01:02:33.165 --> 01:02:34.424
So I went, oh, thank God.

01:02:34.424 --> 01:02:35.714
I mean, I, you know, it wasn't something,

01:02:35.714 --> 01:02:36.524
Terry DiMonte: Well, it's 30 years.

01:02:36.524 --> 01:02:37.395
You gotta give him a little bit.

01:02:37.399 --> 01:02:38.160
Jake Edwards: I get it.

01:02:38.160 --> 01:02:39.189
But that happens.

01:02:39.189 --> 01:02:41.335
You know, you talk about,
you talk about celebrities.

01:02:41.355 --> 01:02:46.104
You think that they're, you are ingrained
in their brain, which is totally untrue.

01:02:46.254 --> 01:02:47.685
I remember being out with Tom Cochrane.

01:02:47.685 --> 01:02:50.755
Jim Conrad: Because you remember
the first moment that you met, but

01:02:50.975 --> 01:02:52.785
they, they meet a lot of people.

01:02:52.814 --> 01:02:53.724
Jake Edwards: Well, Tom

01:02:53.724 --> 01:02:56.444
Cochran, myself, Alex
Lifeson from Rush, were out

01:02:56.444 --> 01:02:59.595
Jake Edwards: playing golf in Toronto
was the greatest day of my life.

01:02:59.595 --> 01:03:02.654
Now Tom Cochran has remained
one of my best friends.

01:03:08.664 --> 01:03:10.034
The guy's a match.

01:03:10.074 --> 01:03:11.164
He's fantastic.

01:03:11.164 --> 01:03:14.415
So Alex Lifeson, then we go do this
meet and greet and I'm going, I

01:03:14.415 --> 01:03:15.734
can't wait to see him on the air.

01:03:15.734 --> 01:03:17.655
You know, I played golf
with him and Tom Cochran.

01:03:19.214 --> 01:03:20.654
This is going to be awesome.

01:03:21.105 --> 01:03:23.445
So I go back, I went,
Hey, how you doing, Alex?

01:03:23.445 --> 01:03:24.795
Remember that time we played golf?

01:03:24.795 --> 01:03:26.025
Tom Cochran, you and I?

01:03:26.055 --> 01:03:26.405
No,

01:03:28.515 --> 01:03:29.425
no, nothing.

01:03:30.205 --> 01:03:31.485
Like zip, nothing.

01:03:31.545 --> 01:03:31.815
Hello?

01:03:31.815 --> 01:03:32.065
No, no.

01:03:32.175 --> 01:03:33.915
I made that three wood shot over.

01:03:35.835 --> 01:03:36.525
Check, check.

01:03:36.525 --> 01:03:37.515
Alex, check.

01:03:37.515 --> 01:03:38.235
Is this on?

01:03:38.805 --> 01:03:39.345
Anyway.

01:03:39.565 --> 01:03:42.525
Terry DiMonte: I didn't know about you,
but I I really never got over that.

01:03:42.525 --> 01:03:44.805
I I still haven't got over that.

01:03:44.805 --> 01:03:49.875
I, you know, the first time that I
realized, um, I was at, uh, the festival

01:03:49.875 --> 01:03:54.735
at Gimli, uh, there was, you remember
those, those open air festivals in Gimli.

01:03:54.855 --> 01:04:00.165
And I was standing near a concession
stand and I heard, Hey, DiMonte and I

01:04:00.165 --> 01:04:01.805
turned around and it was Tom Cochrane.

01:04:02.035 --> 01:04:04.695
To your point, he's such a
mansion, he doesn't forget.

01:04:04.935 --> 01:04:05.625
And I thought.

01:04:05.955 --> 01:04:06.675
Holy shit.

01:04:06.675 --> 01:04:08.115
Tom Cochrane knows who I am.

01:04:08.235 --> 01:04:08.895
It's a,

01:04:08.895 --> 01:04:09.495
Jim Conrad: It gives you something.

01:04:09.585 --> 01:04:11.775
Terry DiMonte: I, I don't
give a shit what anybody says.

01:04:11.835 --> 01:04:12.904
It's a cool thing.

01:04:12.904 --> 01:04:14.955
It's like when you go up on a billboard.

01:04:15.135 --> 01:04:16.005
I'm sorry.

01:04:16.185 --> 01:04:17.625
That's fucking cool.

01:04:17.685 --> 01:04:20.625
Jake Edwards: Who's that guy in
the Camaro has been there for five

01:04:20.625 --> 01:04:22.395
hours looking at his billboard.

01:04:22.425 --> 01:04:25.365
Terry DiMonte: No, but you know, it's like
when you first, when you first see like

01:04:25.365 --> 01:04:30.075
a commercial for your show on television
or you, or Tom Cochrane waves at you, you

01:04:30.075 --> 01:04:32.205
go, holy shit, how did this happen to me?

01:04:32.265 --> 01:04:33.075
Okay, that's fun.

01:04:33.075 --> 01:04:34.525
Jim Conrad: Who, now who were the pricks?

01:04:34.975 --> 01:04:36.275
And we can name names.

01:04:36.290 --> 01:04:36.470
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

01:04:36.475 --> 01:04:36.525
Jake Edwards: Yeah.

01:04:36.525 --> 01:04:38.415
Well, hmm.

01:04:38.505 --> 01:04:39.345
Let me think.

01:04:39.450 --> 01:04:42.705
Terry DiMonte: The, the
nasty, the artist that was

01:04:42.735 --> 01:04:45.065
Jake Edwards: Oh, uh, movie stars.

01:04:45.325 --> 01:04:49.425
Uh, I was in Toronto waiting for
the star of Crocodile Dundee.

01:04:49.755 --> 01:04:50.535
Jim Conrad: What's his name?

01:04:50.535 --> 01:04:51.035
Jake Edwards: Paul.

01:04:57.075 --> 01:04:58.790
Jim Conrad: Crocodile
Dundee, Paul, anybody.

01:04:59.970 --> 01:05:00.504
Jake Edwards: Paul.

01:05:00.504 --> 01:05:01.575
Terry DiMonte: Paul Hogan.

01:05:01.580 --> 01:05:01.950
Jake Edwards: Hogan.

01:05:01.950 --> 01:05:02.400
Thank you.

01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:02.640
Thank you.

01:05:02.640 --> 01:05:02.730
Paul.

01:05:02.730 --> 01:05:04.300
I got the first name.

01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:06.090
So anyway, he's supposed
to be in the interview,

01:05:06.090 --> 01:05:06.960
Jim Conrad: So Paul, Paul Hogan.

01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:07.770
You're supposed to meet him.

01:05:07.820 --> 01:05:08.130
Jake Edwards: Yeah.

01:05:08.335 --> 01:05:09.270
And he's big star, right?

01:05:09.270 --> 01:05:10.680
He said, look at, that's a knife.

01:05:10.680 --> 01:05:11.490
This is a knife.

01:05:11.490 --> 01:05:12.720
I mean, he, that was a big movie.

01:05:13.080 --> 01:05:14.490
So I'm pretty excited to meet him.

01:05:14.490 --> 01:05:16.110
I'm going, this guy sounds like a hoot.

01:05:16.230 --> 01:05:18.870
So anyway, uh, eight
o'clock rolls by no Paul.

01:05:18.870 --> 01:05:23.444
8:30, 9:00, 9:30, 10 o'clock, no show.

01:05:23.444 --> 01:05:25.125
And I've been promoting
him the whole time.

01:05:25.305 --> 01:05:27.915
I walk out, he stumbles
in onto the elevator.

01:05:27.915 --> 01:05:31.725
It's 10:30 and he used to have
this commercial for a beer company

01:05:32.295 --> 01:05:34.924
and it was the Australian beer.

01:05:36.765 --> 01:05:37.435
Jim Conrad: Fosters.

01:05:37.935 --> 01:05:40.365
Jake Edwards: Fosters, take a
look at the size of this biggin.

01:05:40.515 --> 01:05:42.645
And that was, you know, I thought,
oh, this is gonna be great.

01:05:42.884 --> 01:05:46.245
So he is walking by and I
went, you asshole take a look

01:05:46.245 --> 01:05:47.595
at the size of this biggin.

01:05:48.255 --> 01:05:51.799
And I got in the elevator and I, I
just, I, I went down and that was it.

01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:52.080
I just.

01:05:52.275 --> 01:05:54.944
Terry DiMonte: It's funny that I'm,
I'm just thinking while you're, you're

01:05:54.944 --> 01:05:58.964
telling that story, you know, you
remember like Billy Joel wasn't very nice.

01:05:58.995 --> 01:05:59.865
I got to meet him.

01:05:59.865 --> 01:06:00.555
He wasn't very nice.

01:06:00.884 --> 01:06:04.455
But the circumstances, you, it
may have been a night where it

01:06:04.455 --> 01:06:05.535
wasn't going well, whatever.

01:06:05.875 --> 01:06:08.545
But it's funny, you
remember all the good ones.

01:06:08.605 --> 01:06:12.355
Like when you asked that question, Jim,
I was, I was like, right, you had the

01:06:12.355 --> 01:06:15.835
roledex thinking who were the pricks.

01:06:15.835 --> 01:06:18.865
But you remember, you know,
most of the really, really

01:06:18.895 --> 01:06:20.425
most, and most of them are kind.

01:06:20.425 --> 01:06:24.325
And I always say it takes the same
amount of time to be an asshole

01:06:24.325 --> 01:06:26.125
as it does to be nice to people.

01:06:26.155 --> 01:06:31.705
Like I, I just don't understand people
who don't, you know, who can't just wave

01:06:31.705 --> 01:06:34.375
and be kind and shake a hand and move on.

01:06:34.435 --> 01:06:35.995
I don't want to have dinner with you.

01:06:36.085 --> 01:06:39.805
I just want to tell you I'm a fan
and I enjoy your work and move on.

01:06:39.935 --> 01:06:43.045
Jim Conrad: Well, particularly if
you're working at radio and playing

01:06:43.045 --> 01:06:45.055
their songs on your radio station.

01:06:45.085 --> 01:06:45.415
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

01:06:45.415 --> 01:06:45.425
Yeah.

01:06:45.780 --> 01:06:47.110
Jim Conrad: You would think that maybe,

01:06:47.170 --> 01:06:49.210
Jake Edwards: I don't think
you want to come off as a dick.

01:06:49.300 --> 01:06:51.490
Terry DiMonte: And one of the, one of
the things about, you know, if you're

01:06:51.490 --> 01:06:56.080
an artist, at least back in those days,
it was probably pretty smart to have the

01:06:56.080 --> 01:07:00.160
record company people like you because
they were outworking your product.

01:07:00.160 --> 01:07:03.340
You know, when I was music director
at CITI-FM, the guys used to

01:07:03.340 --> 01:07:04.790
come in with a stack of albums.

01:07:05.250 --> 01:07:07.900
And they would say, eh, you
guys aren't gonna like this.

01:07:07.990 --> 01:07:09.010
This is a piece of shit.

01:07:09.130 --> 01:07:10.210
This is a piece of shit.

01:07:10.570 --> 01:07:15.180
This, you guys might like this,
these two I really need your help on.

01:07:15.410 --> 01:07:17.620
These two, these are good records.

01:07:17.620 --> 01:07:17.770
They're

01:07:17.860 --> 01:07:19.540
Jake Edwards: Dream Police, cheap trick.

01:07:19.540 --> 01:07:20.390
You gotta get that.

01:07:27.700 --> 01:07:28.000
Terry DiMonte: Please.

01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:28.940
You've gotta play this record.

01:07:29.565 --> 01:07:32.265
You know, so those guys are
working on the ground level for

01:07:32.265 --> 01:07:32.990
you when you, you're an artist.

01:07:32.990 --> 01:07:35.355
Jim Conrad: And 'cause they, and because
the, the relationship between their

01:07:35.355 --> 01:07:37.785
artist and they had been established.

01:07:37.785 --> 01:07:38.174
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

01:07:38.174 --> 01:07:38.745
And, and,

01:07:38.750 --> 01:07:39.674
Jim Conrad: And that's
how important it is.

01:07:39.674 --> 01:07:39.734
Terry DiMonte: Yeah.

01:07:39.950 --> 01:07:45.755
And, and if you were the CBS record guy
and Robin Zander was nice to you, you

01:07:45.755 --> 01:07:49.305
would take Dream Police under your arm
and you push the shit out of it for him.

01:07:49.335 --> 01:07:50.055
Jake Edwards: Which we did.

01:07:50.174 --> 01:07:50.535
Terry DiMonte: Yes.

01:07:50.535 --> 01:07:51.254
Which we did.

01:07:51.345 --> 01:07:54.015
Jim Conrad: Jake, tell me, uh, you've
told me this before, but there is a

01:07:54.015 --> 01:07:59.115
classic story of, um, a, wasn't it
a Julio Iglesias press conference?

01:08:03.015 --> 01:08:09.225
Jake Edwards: Yes, we were in Toronto
and Julio Iglesias came in with Rambo's

01:08:09.225 --> 01:08:11.415
girlfriend, uh, what was her name?

01:08:11.415 --> 01:08:12.295
Brit Ekland?

01:08:12.315 --> 01:08:13.325
Jim Conrad: Oh, Brit Ekland.

01:08:13.665 --> 01:08:15.035
Terry DiMonte: Bridget Nielson.

01:08:15.035 --> 01:08:18.390
Jake Edwards: Bridget Nielson.

01:08:18.390 --> 01:08:18.810
Thank you.

01:08:19.060 --> 01:08:21.555
Anyway, we're sitting around
and Julio Iglesias is there.

01:08:22.019 --> 01:08:23.759
And we're all around the table.

01:08:24.179 --> 01:08:26.099
And Brit, uh, Bridget Nielson.

01:08:26.099 --> 01:08:26.769
Terry DiMonte: Bridget Nielson.

01:08:27.990 --> 01:08:28.779
Jake Edwards: Thank you.

01:08:29.189 --> 01:08:30.479
Terry DiMonte: Also,
you're in your sixties now.

01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:30.750
Jake Edwards: Yeah.

01:08:30.809 --> 01:08:34.319
And, and all of a sudden her top
comes up just at the dinner table.

01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:35.969
I'm going, what the hell's going on here?

01:08:36.419 --> 01:08:40.559
So then Julio Iglesias comes in
and he's basically sitting down

01:08:40.559 --> 01:08:44.639
with his 24-year-old girlfriend
and he said, I have to go now.

01:08:44.939 --> 01:08:45.840
I must go make love.

01:08:48.990 --> 01:08:49.349
We're like,

01:08:49.979 --> 01:08:50.654
Jim Conrad: And got up and left.

01:08:50.660 --> 01:08:51.960
Jake Edwards: And got
up and left and that,

01:08:54.029 --> 01:08:54.870
Jim Conrad: That's an exit line.

01:08:54.930 --> 01:08:55.889
Jake Edwards: I must go make love.

01:08:56.080 --> 01:08:58.290
Terry DiMonte: It's like
a scene from a movie.

01:08:58.859 --> 01:08:59.099
Jake Edwards: Oh my God.

01:08:59.099 --> 01:09:02.079
Jim Conrad: That's exit line
one of my final questions.

01:09:02.099 --> 01:09:04.260
What's the hardest you've ever worked?

01:09:04.950 --> 01:09:07.260
Terry DiMonte: For me without
a doubt on construction.

01:09:07.750 --> 01:09:08.410
I had a,

01:09:08.410 --> 01:09:09.465
Jim Conrad: So it wasn't a radio.

01:09:09.525 --> 01:09:13.875
Terry DiMonte: One summer, I was
working in Toronto for a construction

01:09:13.875 --> 01:09:17.535
company, laying patios, you know,
from seven in the morning until five

01:09:17.535 --> 01:09:19.275
at night with a half hour for lunch.

01:09:19.965 --> 01:09:24.195
And I remember thinking to myself,
wow, this is good money and I

01:09:24.195 --> 01:09:26.055
never want to do this again.

01:09:26.385 --> 01:09:30.255
I have such a deep and abiding respect
for people who work with their hands

01:09:30.345 --> 01:09:35.325
and drive buses and work outside
in the bad weather and all of that.

01:09:35.715 --> 01:09:41.205
We were the luckiest motherfuckers
on the planet to do what we did.

01:09:41.605 --> 01:09:43.995
And listen, I worked hard.

01:09:44.025 --> 01:09:46.545
I didn't get where I was, I hustled.

01:09:46.905 --> 01:09:49.395
I went, you know, as a friend
of mine said you would go to

01:09:49.395 --> 01:09:50.715
the opening of an envelope.

01:09:50.715 --> 01:09:53.085
I was out all the time.

01:09:53.355 --> 01:09:56.175
I never said no, I never
turned anything down.

01:09:56.430 --> 01:09:58.830
I, you know, I visited schools.

01:09:58.830 --> 01:10:03.990
I went like, I, like, I worked hard in
radio to get where I was, but not, like,

01:10:03.990 --> 01:10:05.790
some people work for a living every day.

01:10:05.970 --> 01:10:06.390
Jim Conrad: And Jake?

01:10:06.630 --> 01:10:09.450
Jake Edwards: Exactly what he
said, uh, never worked a day

01:10:09.450 --> 01:10:11.430
in my life of being on the air.

01:10:11.490 --> 01:10:13.200
Uh, did work really hard.

01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:14.850
Tremendous hours.

01:10:15.120 --> 01:10:19.920
Sacrificed family, sacrificed
a lot of friends by doing that.

01:10:20.250 --> 01:10:24.570
Doing Monday night football in the east
in Halifax when the game comes on at

01:10:24.570 --> 01:10:30.090
nine o'clock and oh my God, there's
overtime at 1:30 in the morning and

01:10:30.090 --> 01:10:31.770
you'd have to drive in and do the show.

01:10:31.830 --> 01:10:34.530
I mean, that, that was hard
work, but every time you

01:10:34.530 --> 01:10:35.940
went out, you met a listener.

01:10:36.030 --> 01:10:39.510
Every time you went out, you met, you
know, kissing babies and making friends.

01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:42.720
That kind of thing always helped,
and it was something that I

01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:44.100
loved to do socially anyway.

01:10:44.400 --> 01:10:47.640
Terry DiMonte: Well, and I, I don't
know about you, but it, this, this went

01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:54.134
on until the last day before I was, I
was pushed outta CHUM, every single day

01:10:54.165 --> 01:10:58.665
when I pushed that control room door
open, whether I was hungover or tired or

01:10:58.665 --> 01:11:03.255
exhausted or crabby or mad, when I pushed
that control room door open and looked at

01:11:03.255 --> 01:11:07.735
that chair in that microphone, I thought
to myself home, you, you lucky fuck.

01:11:07.735 --> 01:11:08.065
I'm home.

01:11:08.065 --> 01:11:09.375
Sit down, sit down.

01:11:09.375 --> 01:11:11.025
I'm home, sit down and have a good time.

01:11:11.745 --> 01:11:16.095
Before we go, Jim, and I just wanna
say this, Jake and I came from an era

01:11:16.095 --> 01:11:17.895
of radio that is never coming back.

01:11:18.165 --> 01:11:24.435
There is never going to be the kind
of broadcast programming and radio,

01:11:24.915 --> 01:11:27.135
um, that we were involved in, right?

01:11:27.135 --> 01:11:31.755
Not, not because we were great anything,
but we worked in an era of radio

01:11:31.755 --> 01:11:36.105
that was special and, and doesn't
exist anymore and isn't coming back.

01:11:36.375 --> 01:11:43.155
So kudos to you, chapeau, as they say
in Quebec for, um, trying to, trying

01:11:43.155 --> 01:11:45.315
to gather some of these stories,

01:11:45.315 --> 01:11:45.345
Jim Conrad: Archive these stories.

01:11:45.345 --> 01:11:49.665
Terry DiMonte: Archive the stories, and
let people know there was a time when

01:11:49.665 --> 01:11:55.905
radio was fun, wild entertaining, and
wasn't the text question of the day.

01:11:55.995 --> 01:12:01.155
That there were, there were wildly
talented people before us and a few

01:12:01.155 --> 01:12:05.415
after us, but you go all the way back
to the days of Raccoon Carney and Doc

01:12:05.415 --> 01:12:10.845
Harris and, and up through the end of our
careers, that, that's never coming back.

01:12:11.850 --> 01:12:15.120
Jim Conrad: Well guys, thank you
so much for being part of this.

01:12:15.120 --> 01:12:16.860
Jake Edwards: Pleasure,
pleasure being here.

01:12:16.860 --> 01:12:19.260
Jim Conrad: For being guests
and some great stories.

01:12:19.410 --> 01:12:23.310
And we're all about storytelling and
like I said, I'm detaching from outcome.

01:12:23.430 --> 01:12:25.020
Whoever listens, listens.

01:12:25.260 --> 01:12:26.780
Terry DiMonte: It's
the joy of the podcast.

01:12:26.780 --> 01:12:27.360
Nicely done.

01:12:27.580 --> 01:12:29.790
Jim Conrad: Thank you.

01:12:29.790 --> 01:12:32.210
Hey,

01:12:36.730 --> 01:12:42.950
now that was episode number four of
Conovision, my very, very special,

01:12:42.950 --> 01:12:48.469
special thank you to Brother Jake
Edwards and Terry DiMonte for their

01:12:48.679 --> 01:12:55.070
amazing stories of radio back in the
day, as well as the legendary Ken

01:12:55.070 --> 01:12:57.980
Nordine and one of his colors, beige.

01:12:58.370 --> 01:13:03.500
More colors to come on upcoming
episodes and more stories.

01:13:04.009 --> 01:13:08.059
'Cause remember, we are
all stories to be told.

01:13:08.599 --> 01:13:09.650
I'm Jim Conrad.

01:13:10.459 --> 01:13:11.179
Thanks for listening.